Meet the Other Phone. Flexible and made to last.

Meet the Other Phone.
Flexible and made to last.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Covid

Mumsnet doesn't verify the qualifications of users. If you have medical concerns, please consult a healthcare professional.

COVID long-termers 14 weeks+

982 replies

isitorisntit · 27/06/2020 08:41

Welcome all. I'm sad that many of us are still here but at least we have each other. The other thread is full, hence this new one.

Welcome anyone else who is struggling with a long recovery from COVID. They're a supportive lot, here.

OP posts:
Thread gallery
8
Egghead68 · 09/07/2020 05:05

@Whatnext2018 hi - yes, brain fog, memory problems, word-finding difficulties etc are common in inflammatory and autoimmune illnesses and illnesses involving fatigue. We are expecting/hoping that they will resolve for the majority of people with Covid in line with their/our other symptoms. Of course there are, sadly, cases with what is likely to be permanent damage from stroke etc. but usually their cognitive symptoms would be a bit different. If anyone is concerned, do get checked out though. In my case, for what it’s worth, the cognitive symptoms have improved with everything else.

I hope everyone is OK. I have to confess I have been avoiding reading the thread because it reminds me too much of the awfulness of the past few months. I will catch up properly when I am feeling mentalIy stronger. I am doing OK but have been a bit more fatigued the last couple of days after overdoing the cardio. My 24-hr ECG came back within normal range, albeit with an average heart-rate of 88.

Flowers to everyone. This group is so supportive and got me through some very dark days. Love the video - it made me cry too.

SunshineCake · 09/07/2020 07:18

How strange so many of us are having tiredness at the 15 week point. Makes me feel emotional as it is scary with all the unknowns. I still get chest and back pain like I have been hit with a hammer but not quite as bad as the two weeks I was in bed, my breathing isn't too bad, and I can run for 30-35 minutes every other day but it is all odd.

IpanemaSunshine · 09/07/2020 08:55

I’m week 16/17 and I’m very tired in the afternoons. With the nausea on top it feels like the first trimester of pregnancy again.

My cough has nearly gone, just have a chest clearing throat thing I need to do daily, which my teens find disgusting! I tell them to stick their AirPods in if they can’t bear it Smile

Fishflakes · 09/07/2020 09:21

Funny that you mention tired in afternoons. I got slightly raised heart rate because of walking energetically at the weekend just gone (Sat) because I have been concerned that my inertia is also making my DC more sedentary and I need to get moving to get them moving.
Anyway by that afternoon I literally had to sit and sleep for an hour which wasn’t ideal when looking after DC. I’m used to physical exhaustion by 8 or 9pm now but the afternoon slump has been pronounced and I notice it very much more if I have had any kind of exercise prior.

onlinelinda · 09/07/2020 09:29

Reading about the tiredness, I'm amazed, and all I can think is thank god it's not just me. 16 weeks here and alternative days walking and shattered. Definitely I couldn't keep going all day.

TiddleTaddleTat · 09/07/2020 09:38

I'm just past 17 weeks and the fatigue has been debilitating for me, right from the beginning. I suppose it did lift slightly between weeks 2 and 9 or so, but has been ever-present since.
Mental exertion and stress exhausts next just as much as physical exertion. While I've been able to lie down a lot, I can't turn off the mental exertion (work) although I'm doing what I can for the stress.
I'd guess that if fatigue is returning at 15 weeks then you may need to tone down what you are doing a little.

Fishflakes · 09/07/2020 09:43

Thanks again for making the video. I really related to the questions it asked. One thing I want to know is ‘why us?’ having long term symptoms. I was struck in the video by the variety of age, sex, ethnicity of those affected. So why us? What do we have in common?
I have been wondering whether there’s a genetic susceptibility we might have (which eg could make sense of what some posters have said- that one of their kids may be quite ill, but another not, while all in contact in same household).

A few weeks back I signed up to volunteer to take part in Genomics England’s COVID 19 study because it said it needed people with mild symptoms to compare with those admitted to hospital. I haven’t heard anything back. (They pick who they want to take part from the volunteers who apply) I said at the time on whichever thread we were on they the symptoms and testing info they asked for didn’t really fit with long term symptoms, which was a shame.

But reading this blog- www.genomicsengland.co.uk/twenty-years-on-from-sequencing-the-first-genome/ it shows they will be looking for only the most and least affected ends of the patient symptoms spectrum, so they can compare them.

So I think it’s probably unlikely that i will get through their screening but who knows.

I totally appreciate that the priority is understanding the response to COVID-19 that hospitalises and ultimately can kill people. But I also think long term COVID needs to be understood too. Not just to give us a answer of whether there is anything we could have done or should do differently in future, but also if and when the vaccine is made, to help prioritise the groups that should be offered it.

BBC today is reporting that of people who tested positive 80/% have no symptoms. So that presumably has implications both for prioritising vaccines if that ever happens, and for the fact that symptomless people are probably under represented in the tested pools because they wouldn’t be taking tests unless they work somewhere that they’re asked to test routinely, so we will know less about them.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53320155

So. I’m not medical or scientific but it feels to me like we need to be arguing for long term COVID affected people like us to be looked at as a distinct group. So we need to have the opportunity to be studied if we wish to take part. Is anyone aware of studies on this?

I’d suggest ‘long term’ means anything over the fabled two weeks’ illness Hmm. Partly due to expectations of being ill for two weeks and then being taken out by exhaustion and brain fog, I haven’t kept any kind of detailed symptoms diary. I am really glad that some people have done this because it could be valuable for researchers one day if they are happy to share them.
I feel like officially we should all be given less strong expectations of being ill for only two weeks- it at least I want to know, does the evidence support that still being the case, or is the picture likely much more varied than that?

I also think officially everyone should be encouraged to do record keeping of their symptoms as detailed as they can, getting help to do this if needed, and I guess the tellZoe app will come into its own for this. But this thread and the Facebook groups and the Slack channels people have mentioned will definitely help with that in regards to long term affected people where the same people have regularly posted updates. The possibility of long term neuro symptoms etc just makes everyone’s record keeping more valuable in terms of predictors.

Fishflakes · 09/07/2020 09:47

Sorry that was really long! Anyway this morning’s symptoms then: earache/neck glands aching, temp 37.6, pricking nerves in hands and feet, ringing tinnitus. Last night I fell asleep early then woke up and couldn’t get back to sleep and I’m feeling tired now. Gin hope everyone on the thread has a good day Flowers

Fishflakes · 09/07/2020 09:51

Whoops, forgot to add, crusted dried up weepy eyes around my eyes when I woke up and a headache. What a picture Grin

Mintypylonsfryingsurplus · 09/07/2020 10:31

Morning I have not been on here that often as have been using Slack and am on the fb Long Covid group. I have been trying to raise awareness, and the amazing video produced by individuals active on all platforms.
However, I got onto a spat on a thread on MN active now. (US might be a good thing- something like that its active now my brain fog cant recall the full title)
I was triggered by a delightful poster who claimed that Long Covid is a 'fashion illness'
Asking for opinions really as I snapped back not really dignified, but along with lack of support from family, was last straw.
I do not want to bring awareness by fighting, WWUD? Should I add a apology? I am finding this hard. I would post a link to the fab video on the offending thread but am not techy enough...

Lightsabre · 09/07/2020 10:44

@godhelpusall, great video which sums it up really well. Thank you - I wonder how we can get it to the media?

Day 100 - Covanniversary sadly. Feeling a bit glum today about my prospects. This lung back pain is getting me down - I don't know what it is or whether it will go. It hasn't got significantly better but I've had to cut back on the painkillers as I'm sure they'll cause long term problems in their own way too. Pinning my hopes on some answers once I start to see the respiratory team but fearful there might not be any. ☹️

KatySun · 09/07/2020 10:47

Definitely not a ‘fashion’ illness so no need to apologise Minty

There is an awful lot of ‘othering’ and alienating of people who have covid 19, which I think psychologically makes people who have not had it feel safer and as if it won’t happen to them. So it is seen as something which affects people with underlying health conditions, people over a certain age, people who are BAME, people who have type A blood, people who do not have enough vitamin D or K in their diet - I am sure there are more ways in which risk has been categorised and sufferers and people who have died are ‘othered’. In fact, I am in none of those categories. I think science which is intended to understand the disease and help reduce risks can very easily become victim-blaming in common discourse. It just helps people reduce their own anxieties.

Obviously covid 19 is a new disease and what you are doing is trying to raise awareness. How people react is up to them. But I certainly would not apologise for snapping, no. I am sure it is not the worst which has ever been posted on here.

Mintypylonsfryingsurplus · 09/07/2020 11:17

@katySun thank you, I lowered my standards but you make good points. Just another bad day. Thanks again for understanding its hard to navigate Flowers

fedupofbed · 09/07/2020 11:34

Morning everyone,

@Lightsabre sorry you're so glum today. 100 days is a bit of a horrible milestone. 💐

@Mintypylonsfryingsurplus some individuals are just ignorant and heartless. I think they're in the minority though. Don't you dare apologise. Dodo in a black hole 🤣

@Egghead68 thanks for reporting back. You were such a big and lovely presence on this thread. Delighted that you're in a new phase now but good to hear from you. I hope recovery continues, even if it's non-linear, and please don't overdo the exercise!

So my new and delightful symptom of the week is swollen aching veins on my hands and arms. They've been a bit bulgy for a while but getting more painful now. Anyone else get this?

Norugratsatall · 09/07/2020 12:25

Morning everyone!

@Fishflakes - your current symptoms seem to be mirroring mine somewhat! I've had an appalling night with screaming tinnitus and woken up this morning with what feels like an ear infection (in the ear that wasn't screaming last night weirdly!). When will this end?!

@Lightsabre . I too had a terrible 100 day covanniversary with a dip and return of tight chest and cough so sending you lots of 💐 On day 110 now.

Good to see the film has garnered more interest on here after @godhelpusall posted it again. Yes, please do share the hell out of it. It is a very well done and powerful film.

I hope you all have the best day you can. I am reluctantly back on ibuprofen now to deal with the ear problem. No doubt it's rotting my stomach! 😫

Mintypylonsfryingsurplus · 09/07/2020 12:40

So sorry you are all still struggling I hope we can all turn a corner soon. I shared the film on fb to spread the message. I have not mentioned my own personal struggle on social media up to now as did not want to be branded an attention seeker but am past caring now as any support and attention is welcome.
I on week 18 and after a really good week 17 crashed with a vengeance with 3 days in bed and unbearable wrist pain.
My doc wants me to call again next week as then it will be diagnosed as M.E due to duration.
I would do anything to work, exercise or feel normal again. Sorry for the pity party but I think when you start to lose hope that is when you struggle most. Sending you all healing vibes and strength Flowers

KatySun · 09/07/2020 12:55

I am sorry to be flipping minty but at least you have not lost your sense of humour, evidenced by your reference to extinct birds in dark places. Courage Flowers

KatySun · 09/07/2020 12:55

*flippant

TheWooisStrong · 09/07/2020 12:59

Popping in. I was one of the early covid sufferers - I had it back the week before lock down.
Happy to say that I’m finally 100% recovered (touch wood) and back to my normal level of health. Even the end of last month I was getting occasional SOB and aches, so it’s been a long slow recovery.

fedupofbed · 09/07/2020 13:05

Sending love and strength @Mintypylonsfryingsurplus - similar timeline here and similar struggles.

My new supplements arrived today and I can no longer shut my little bedside cupboard drawer 😂. I have to stop now!

COVID long-termers 14 weeks+
Mintypylonsfryingsurplus · 09/07/2020 13:05

@KatySun ha ha yes my sense of humour has endured but I fear I am not as nice a person as I would like. Going to do some restorative yoga to try to obliterate the feelings of bitterness and open my heart to a bit of peace.
Tomorrows another day as the saying goes ❤

SunshineCake · 09/07/2020 13:07

I'm also losing motivation by the afternoon. Busy all morning but after lunch it is more of an effort.

fedupofbed · 09/07/2020 13:08

Whoop fantastic @TheWooisStrong !
Thanks for letting us know.

Mintypylonsfryingsurplus · 09/07/2020 13:09

@TheWooisStrong thats fab! Thats given me hope for sure. Enjoy your summer and hurrah for your continued recovery.
@fedupofbed ah bless you yes supplements are helping I too am boosting the economy with a plethora of pills. I hope you recover very soon. Feel better now thanks to you all Flowers

stayathomegardener · 09/07/2020 13:44

@TheWooisStrong fantastic update!
Gives us all hope I think.

Swipe left for the next trending thread