Anyone else think our reprieve might be short lived?

[Lemons1571]

The briefing just seemed so, abrupt today. Suddenly it’s ‘the last ever briefing’, most things are allowed to open up next week, keep your distance, and then a “right we’re off good luck” sort of exit. While there’s still hundreds of deaths a week.

Seems a bit premature - I would’ve thought they would at least do a weekly briefing. I can’t decide if they think taking the briefings off the air will be “out of sight out of mind”, and people will chill out and start spending and going out again. Or whether they’ve run out of steam and need a break before the autumn colds season descends. Whitty seemed sure this wasn’t going anywhere and we’re in for a year plus of this. What do you think?

Basically they want to be even less accountable than they have been

And people take many precautions to avoid the illnesses you've said.

Have you ever heard of medication, statins, aspirin, warfarin. Or heard of smoking cessation and good old slimming world? This one will really shock you......there's actually a flu vaccine . Yup, a real life vaccine!

Unfortunately, for now we only have distancing as a preventative measure for covid.

Yeah but how many people (out of pop of 67M) die of cancer or sepsis or heart attack even flu etc every day? Yet most people take little or no steps to avoid those things.

I don't think you can catch cancer/heart attacks or sepsis.

I actually found Whitty (in particular) and Vallance to be quite strong and effective today. Unlike Boris. Who almost forgot to tell us this was the last daily briefing!!

Completely agree with you OP, the whole thing is totally premature.

Agree with PP's, I would have liked to see a weekly briefing. There must be enough useful stuff to say for Boris to do a weekly round up? (Actually leave Boris out and just have Chris Whitty do it

I think they should issue a daily statement and at least a weekly news conference 🤔

@OneMetreWithMitigation

Must be the Guardian spouting shite again (however ITN news made the same point):

“The number of children needing foster care has risen by 44% during the coronavirus pandemic, creating a “state of emergency”, a children’s charity said.”

Whatever the actual stats are, it’s clear that lockdown has created massive social problems.

I foresee a social distant, locked down Christmas. I have no evidence or.nowlege to base it on, but, the weather is warming up and as it does the infections go down. When the weather cools, will it then begin to rise again? Are we going to end up living it up in summer, locked down every year from 1st December to July 4th.
Hmm. Weird times.

I enjoy the social distancing because I'm quite reclusive but I worry about societal collapse
Maybe I'm just paranoid, you tend to go a bit weird if you're reclusive and all the extra stress doesn't help.... the stress of worrying about societal collapse🤔

@MonkeyToesOfDoom I really really cant see people adhering to a Christmas lockdown.

And you can bet DC and his ilk wouldnt.

Re children going into care, what this lockdown has highlighted for me is how many children are left in completely unsuitable homes during the normal course of things. No child should be living in a home environment so poor that a daily escape to school is needed for safeguarding purposes. I am aware that there will be some families who just about coped before this crisis and some of the hits from Covid will have pushed them over the edge, but I am talking about households known from before covid to be a nightmare for the children. I know the care system is not exactly an answer, but then what do we need to do because we can't leave children in these situations surely?

@lemons do you know of any other country doing regular updates daily , i am not sure many did
There is nothing to talk about daily, all figures can be found
We will be updated as and when things change thats all we need now
I know hardly anyone who watches the daily briefings now unless announced that boris is on advising something new
Nothing to announce about schools yet and im sure we will have to see how these relaxations pan out first and how it is affected in other countries

@Inkpaperstars

No child should be living in a home environment so poor that a daily escape to school is needed for safeguarding purposes.

My sentiments exactly.

NO
The briefings have been embarrassing for at least a month. Very repetitive and basically talking through slides that can be accessed on the net and if you prefer video, better presented by a decent news presenter.

The figures in the main are going only one way. Yes there will be local blips but nothing that can't be handled locally.

@Alexa but who would pay them to stay at home wheres all the money coming from , but again this may change if fugures go up its under constant review
And you cant support a small business that is shut
Several near me have been shut down for good and i know of a few people facing redundancy who work for larger firms as wells as lockdown has cost them too much
If we don't try and open now then when ?

Yep Boris reckons he's got Covid done bish bosh off you all pop If there's a second spike you were all warned stay alert and remember it's a metre PLUS

Read some of the thread not all of it, I am desperate to go to my favourite summer pub on the river, DS is heading to his friends parents house for a few days sans parents, we are all desperate to hit our local Ivy, for multiple cocktails and food.

I reckon once the itch is scratched, the hype will abate and ergo the possible spike.

I am also desperate to jump on a plane to Dublin to see my beloved family, my mother(80) has had been diagnosed, had a hysterectomy and radio, would love to see her, but that can wait until the gradual emerging is seen to work or not..

I agree, OP, the second wave will probably arrive by late summer. It's worrying, but we can't sustain a lockdown forever, it's just not affordable. Also, people have run out of patience and are not complying with the guidelines as much now, so we just have to hope the NHS will be able to cope. At least now we have the Nightingale hospitals, plus a drug that seems to help the critical cases, so maybe the second wave will not be as bad as the first one.

Wasn't the whole point of being able to ease lockdown the (now laughable) test and trace system in the UK?

@Qasd

It is what the rest of Europe have done! If either works for us all or not at all..I genuinely do not know which but genuinely think it’s a second wave across Europe or not the U.K. policy is not now significantly different from others.

I haven’t got the data but I think it’s possible that other European countries that had high deaths, France, Spain, Italy started to relax their measures when there were less daily cases than here. Also are their test, tracing and isolating systems better?

@Defenbaker

I agree, OP, the second wave will probably arrive by late summer. It's worrying, but we can't sustain a lockdown forever, it's just not affordable. Also, people have run out of patience and are not complying with the guidelines as much now, so we just have to hope the NHS will be able to cope. At least now we have the Nightingale hospitals, plus a drug that seems to help the critical cases, so maybe the second wave will not be as bad as the first one.

Professor of Public Health, Devi Sridhar, agrees lockdown can’t go on forever but claims the govt should have put all their resources into an effective test, trace and isolate system before easing measures and such a system has the best chance to be effective if lockdown is eased when cases are lower than they are at present. They have not done this

Tweets this evening by Prof Devi Sridhar

And final tweets from Devi Sridhar this evening.

@Inkpaperstars this is what I have said on a number of threads, PP saying schools have to go back for vulnerable children, but why are so many children living in such awful conditions and why weren’t people jumping up and down about this before? I suppose if it is highlighted to more people that this is the position maybe it will help. But the answer can’t simply be that schools are their safe place.