Do people think it’s over now?

[SpookyNoise]

I’m surprised at how many people seem to think the lockdown is over and there is no threat from the virus. I’ve had a friend ask us over for dinner in their house, and my son has had a friend ask him over to play. We declined both invites, obviously. Has anyone else got friends who think it’s all over?

We certainly haven’t gone back to normal.
The majority of the eptking population remain WFH or furloughed.
Children are not in school.
Entire industries are closed.

2 metres apart is actually quite important, the maths of cubic metres of air doesn't change because we want to open the pubs.

We need workarounds for the important stuff; business, education, health. We do not need to be in each other's houses. We can meet in gardens.

if it rains, put a coat on.

The idea was to slow dow. The spread not stay locked up forever. Now it ha been slowed time to prop our economy before we go into deep recession and improve our kids mental health.

I will continue to social distance from my mum and in-laws as they are all in their 70’s so that makes sense.

My young kids need to socialize and play with their friends, so will let them have friends in the garden. I enjoyed a mooch round home sense and next today. It did me the world of good on what is a difficult day for me. I was feeling so down. I feel so much better after a bit of normality. There are good measures in place in comparison to before lockdown so the virus will not spread as fast as it did before lockdown.

@BluebellForest836

Well no not for them but for everyone that’s still breathing.. life goes on and we can’t stay indoors.

If you’re at risk.. stay in.

For those of us at lower risk we can go anywhere that’s open again and carry on.

What about the hospital staff that will have to look after you if you get ill? Should they "stay in" ? They obviously can't do that. Or are you planning on not getting medical care if you so get ill?

@mencken

2 metres apart is actually quite important, the maths of cubic metres of air doesn't change because we want to open the pubs.

We need workarounds for the important stuff; business, education, health. We do not need to be in each other's houses. We can meet in gardens.

if it rains, put a coat on.

It’s being reduced to 1m recommended only on Tuesday

I’m really not so fussed about shopping and pubs anyway. Especially with all the toilets closed! It makes no difference to me to just carry on as I am. The only family I want to see live at the other end of the country anyway and I will be guided by them as to when they want to meet again. I have no issue with staying home, I enjoy it. What others do is down to them. I can’t get worked up about it.

Whether it's reduced to 1m or not the virus is just as contagious as it was before!
Also, From BBC website:"The World Health Organisationrecommends a distance of at least 1m(just over 3ft), but the UK government's scientific advisers say that being 1m apart carries up to 10 times the risk of being 2m apart."

Stripey Medical staff want to get on with their lives to you know. I am one. I am not staying locked in forever just because I deal with patients. Also a lot of us have had it already as we were the ones hit hardest by the first wave.

Mencken - the weather might not be an issue now but it will be in a few months. Supermarkets already have umbrellas outside that you can borrow if there's a queue and rain.
I worry how many won't be able to queue in the rain and cold.

For people who have had to work and be out and about in public throughout, it’s become harder and harder to take the threat of Covid seriously. Community transmission is very low, the majority of the problem has always been in hospitals and care homes.

If people are still scared of getting the virus when it is estimated that only 1 in 1700 people have it then what figure would it take for them to not be scared? 1 in 1 million? Genuine question.

Especially with all the toilets closed

They’re not.

Or are you planning on not getting medical care if you so get ill?

Why would you get medical care? The people I know who've had it didn't receive medical care they just sat it out like we all do with viruses 🤷‍♂️

Unless you have a particular reason to be susceptible then most people seem to be getting back to some sort of normal life. The only outward signs are the social distancing in shops. That varies shop to shop. EG local Home bargains it was barely noticeable, B&Q was far more structured.
Local kids playgrounds have kids there, teenagers roam round in groups. setting fire to heathland I know families that have had granny childminding all the way through. Others have had family round all the way through including get togethers and BBQs.
My life returned to normal when retail separated into 'essential and non essential. I was 'essential' 100s of customers ignoring SD every day. My DS could be a customer to speak to me in person but not come to visit. A nonsense, although we adhered to it so we felt we had done our part.

don’t think people understand the Maths, but a virus does. It care, it will still obey it. Right now, the risk of being infected is tiny. It is very safe to see people. However, this tiny risk now seems stable, not diminishing (an r of about 1). If enough people take this tiny risk, next week it will still be tiny, but a little less tiny, and even less tiny the following week. In a couple of months it will be significant again, and we will need another lockdown.

This. This is what people who are still talking precautions understand. They're not terrified. They just get it.

TBh - we have spent over 1/4 of a year in lockdown...Shops are open, pubs are going to be open ...If there is a second wave we are going out now..

I am not sitting in friends dinning room for dinner but do plan to sit in friends garden, get out the house, order take aways whilst I can.

I can see the MH of my DS more of a risk than covid right now.

It's an odd situation. Due to the medication I'm on, I stayed at home for 12 weeks shielding. However since then I've been for the odd walk (now my daily exercise), been to the supermarket (first time today) and have been asked round to some friends next weekend (socially distancing in their garden).

I know it's ok for me to do all these things but it feels like I wasted those 12 weeks staying in and didn't really need to although I know I did, if that makes sense!

However I know things are far from over - when the gym opens I'll be back to being me!

Quick question to all those who think it is all over - do you know anyone directly impacted and if you do will you still think it is over or for it is over for me but not for other people?

For the total number of people at any point in the UK circa 66m then yes 50k fatalities is a small percentage but do not forget how many are probably invisible asymptomatic (transmitters) and untested as obviously no (despite fake/optimistic government(s) claims) actual mass testing nor any trace track and isolate given the ongoing steady world record daily UK Covid fatalities.

Each to their own and good luck and stay safe. From a probability angle you are probably as likely to get Covid as with winning any prize in a lottery! Just a guess as no scientist!

Not scare mongering as this "flu" has already wiped out the economy if not medically! On that note we need to adjust to new normal and be wary of the ongoing potential damage from this pandemic and not believe it is not there but more trying best to accommodate it as safe as practicable while trying to carry on being productive and good to yourself, family, friends and society as a whole.

Anyone who doesn’t think it’s over , feel free to stay home while the rest of us enjoy our lives

For all those who are just going back to normal and think it's all over, honest answer do you not care about infecting other people, or does it not cross your minds? I'm genuinely curious.

All the people who say ‘I’m not locking down any more, not fussed about the virus so not bothering anymore’ kind of thing seem to think they won’t be just as subject to future lockdowns as the rest of us. You will.

I also think it stinks that people apparently care soooo much about getting the kids back to school in September but plan to spend all the time from now till then in the pub, demanding social distancing is reduced, socialising, shopping etc, not staying cautious so that if there IS a second wave it’ll hit just in time to knock schools out again in the autumn.

I think that different people have different risks. Our family are very low risk with no underlying conditions. I don't know anyone who was hospitalized but I know people who suspect that they've had it.

Personally I think that as a family we should be able to go and live our normal lives with adjustments like meeting people outdoors, extra hand washing and social distancing.

I understand that might be galling to high risk people (shielding, NHS frontline etc) though

sunny Actually, some of you are very likely to die. Because you're probably creating a second wave for which we're unequivocally unequipped. And you will require treatment from people who are very saintly, some of whom will also become extremely ill. So enjoy, but try to allow a tiny part of this awareness to inform your enjoyment. We're all going to need a great deal of caution to get through the next bit.

Unfortunately so and the reason we will be in this mess longer because people can’t social distance.

flamingochill your not living your normal lives if you are distancing, practicing good hygiene and meeting outdoors you're being responsible, it's the people who aren't doing these things and going in and out of one another's houses and not taking precautions that are likely to spread infection.