Fab news for single parents and those living alone !!

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www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-52988840

I can see the threds now about grandparents who picked the wrong child and grandchildren DIL for their bubble

@WowLucky true! My brother has agreed to be 'exiled' from the family so we can "bubble" with my dad and my DD can see her grandad. My brother has no children. It's like being at school when you all line up against a wall and get chosen to be on someone's team 😆

ImaPinkToothbrush of course all grandparents are not over 70 though.
My mum lives alone. She is 60, and has had Covid (confirmed as she works for the NHS). She has been working out of the home throughout so is actually more of a risk to us than we are to her. So yes, we will be seeing her in her home and ours now we are permitted to do so.

The government website isn't saying anything about both households needing to be single people/single parents. It talks of meeting up with other members of your support bubble.

Only if you are in a support bubblee_ with them.
From 13 June, if you are a single adult household – either you live alone or only with dependent children - you can form a support bubble with one other household. This means you can see other members of your support bubble indoors and outside. You will also be able to be less than 2 metres apart and stay overnight as if you were members of the same household. Individuals who form a bubble with one household may not form a bubble with anyone else.

It's definitely a proposal intended to let single parents get back to work.

Childcare is now no longer an issue, as you can send them to another household.

So it definitely is a household if any size.

But as I have to travel five hours to see my parents I still can't visit them. I have not seen them for nearly five months. I am so fucked off.

@fessmess
Why can't you travel to see them?

You can travel to see them, maybe not if you have to go to Scotland or Wales because not sure what their stance is, but there isn't a limit to the drive. Service stations are open.

it doesn't just help single parents get back to work... it helps me too. Both DH and I will be working outside of the home soon and we had no childcare options until this was announced.

I do think it's major reasoning was however to help those who have had no human contact for such a long time. My mum will benefit so much from this. She has been visibly brighter since last nights press conference. It's a good first step.

It’s the first step in allowing household to household interaction, concentrating on those who have had no interaction for 12 weeks.

"Sending your kids to your mothers house for a sleepover... especially if those kids have been attending school, or mixing with other children, or visiting separated parents who might have mixed with their own bubbles... is no less risky today than it was a week ago."

My mother is 64, fit and healthy as a horse, with no underlying conditions, and hasn't been going anywhere other than on dog walks. The DC have not been going to school, my DH has been working from home, and I can't work atm, so the risk is minimal for all of us.

And my DM and DC are all over the moon at the prospect of a night together, so it's a massive boost to all of their mental health. DS announced this morning that he's "as excited as a hamster!" to be going.

If over 70 but not not had a shielding letter there is no problem. If shielding people would come under the "Clinically extremely vulnerable category". If just over 70 it's the "clinically vulnerable category"

Clinically vulnerable’describes the wider group of people who have been identified as being more at risk from the new coronavirus but not so severely that they need to shield themselves.

The government doesn’t actually recommend that clinically vulnerable people follow any rules that differ from the universal social distancing guidance.

But these people are being told to follow thatguidancecarefully, and to take particular care to minimise contact with others outside of their household.

As discussed above, this group includes anyone aged 70 or older regardless of their medical conditions.

It also includes anyone who is under 70 but has health conditions including chronic mild to moderate respiratory disease, chronic heart, kidney or liver disease, chronic neurological conditions, diabetes or a weakened immune system because of conditions such as HIV and AIDS or medicines like steroid tablets.

This group alsoincludes pregnant womenand anyone classed as seriously overweight, with a body mass index of 40 or above.

fullfact.org/health/coronavirus-shielding-social-distancing/

I don’t get the ‘how hard is it to understand’ comments?

On this thread alone, there’s contradictions about wether both parts of the bubble need to be single adults or just one part of the bubble.

So, obviously, not that easy to understand.

It's not easy to understand because Chris Whitty and Boris said different things.

I will be following this....

@EllaAlright

Because it really isn't difficult to understand. If one household is either a single person or a single parent with a child under 18, they can mix with one other house hold of any size and any age and any family set up.

Essentially, if you're a single person/parent, choose one other household and that is your bubble.

It could be a bubble combined of 2 households both of which are single people
Both of which are single parents
One of which is a single parent

Any combination

But at least 1 household out of the 2 must be a single person/parent

Yes, that’s my understanding too, 2007Mile. But on this thread alone, there is still ambiguity about what bubbles can join together. Some people think both parts of the bubble need to be single, some think only one part. Probably due to the contradiction of Chris Whitty and Johnson.

I’m taking it as only one part of the bubble needs to be single as that is what the news reported is saying.

Phew, what I've been doing all along is now legal! The only issue is that my DD's want other (also single) people in their bubble, whose partner gets priority??? Silly question, mine of course but shows the issue when it's a single parent with adult children!

But it’s not entirely safe, but they are easing the lockdown slowly. Mixing households is probably one of the riskiest things as that has a higher transmission rate than most other areas, apart from hospitals and care homes. Even if you are a person eligible under these rules you need to make a risk assessment. All because Boris says you can do it, doesn’t make it compulsory and doesn’t mean you can’t transmit the virus.

Urgh. I think I’m going to take a social media break (MN included). Feeling really sad and everything I read is making it worse.

Urgh and even worse I posted this on the wrong thread.

This is the government guidance:

www.gov.uk/guidance/meeting-people-from-outside-your-household?utm_source=e51a81c3-504a-48be-9355-469253c88f96&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=govuk-notifications&utm_content=daily

How on earth has this announcement confused people? It's really very bloody simple

Lol -Because Boris / Whitt’s said something different live to the regulations and the BBC etc written summary

Bless him

I'm a single mum of 3 and was really excited until my mum said no as it's not fair on my siblings who both have partners

Would your siblings mind @Afishcallledbob? It’s not like this is permanent and your DM will never see your siblings again. Hopefully, if the R rate can go down, bubbles will grow like they have in other countries.

If your siblings wouldn’t mind, bearing in mind their partners may want to form a support bubble with their own parent, I would have a chat with them and they can tell your DM they don’t mind.