Fab news for single parents and those living alone !!

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www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-52988840

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Oh I hope not @Cherryghost ! I was a lone parent when DS was little and it was bloody hard work. Fortunately it was only for a couple of years until I met DH. I can only imagine how hard it's been over the last 3 months for lone parents

'Support bubble' plan lets people living alone in England combine households

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/10/support-bubble-plan-lets-single-parents-in-england-combine-households?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

Under these rules, it will mean single parents and children under 18 that they live with and single adults living alone can go inside one other household and even stay overnight without maintaining social distancing.

A single person household will be able to join together with a multi-person household, so a lone parent could, for example, visit their children’s grandparents in another part of England for help and stay for an extended period.

It will also mean a couple who live apart can meet for the first time during the lockdown, if at least one of them lives alone.

However, any multi-person household will only be able to join with one single-person household, so it would mean hard choices for a group of people living together with partners who live alone elsewhere.

It will also not apply to people told to shield, who are meant to be isolating until the end of June apart from being able to meet one other person outside their home.

One exemption to the exclusivity rule will be that parents who are separated can continue to move children between households, so the children of separated parents could potentially be in two separate support bubbles – one bubble for each parent.

They should have included sn families of any age, not just insert 18s!

I'm a single parent and shielding. My ex sees my son frequently, and I'd much rather he didn't head indoors to spend time with his fellow single parents and kids. Solely due to fact I'm shielding.

Unless I've interpreted things wrongly, as I'm still shielding to end of June, I have a case in firmly requesting he continues social distancing outdoors up to 6 people and does not enter their house / stays overnight, as the new rules just announced do not apply to those shielding. I view our separated family, as 1 household as DS passes between the two of us.

Thoughts anyone? Thank you :)

Under not insert aargh!

I really hope that it doesn’t have to be to single adult households. My mum is on her own and my husband is away half the time so would be nice for us to bubble and support one another. But if we both have to be single adult households we won’t be able to join as my husband is home every couple of weeks. Would also be great for MIL as she could bubble with BIL and SIL but only if you can bubble with household with two adults.

Boris didn't say both households must be single adults but Chris Witty did when asked to clarify an answer a member of the public asked about meeting a partner who lived a long way away and could they stay overnight. He said about one adult in each household but accepting of course that would include a single parent.

Oh they both have others, but I'm due baby any day so think they've each decided we need them to come over and be here all the time (sounds awful but actually I want noone here and looking forward to our own bubble)

No it wouldn’t work if have to both be single households if it’s designed to add support . I’m a single parent but don’t know any others to bubble with and can’t wait to see my sis and family .

Can someone clarify this situation on whether allowed please?

Single parent wants to pick partner who lives with his parents who are shielding

I'm a single parent with no close family.

I'm delighted, but... cue slightly embarrassing conversation with friend "Do you want to be my support bubble?" Which means, can I invite myself round to your house with my kids? (or they could come here, but I live in a cramped crappy flat). They might have another single parent friend who's first in line. Aargh, awkward!

Support bubbles are restricted to single person households, so how can a single person join a multi occupant household? It can only mean that 2 single person households can combine surely?

Cherryghost Sorry it says it doesn't include those who are shielding.

From BBC news website:

Support bubbles are the first steps in allowing SOME households to mix in England, but in a very limited way.

It will mean adults living alone can join with ONE other household; such as family or friends. It will also apply to single parents.

They won't have to follow social distancing rules; so they can stay the night at their chosen household. They could hug people in the other household too.

That means, for example, that a single grandparent could go and stay at one of their children's house.

A single person could go and stay with a partner who lives alone.

If anyone in the bubble gets coronavirus symptoms, everyone will have to self-isolate.

The government is not advising people who are shielding to do any of this, however.

I'm a single parent, I have a 20 year old and 17 year old. Both my children are home with me (20 year old home from uni). Myself and my partner have remained in separate households during lockdown. We have been waiting for a social bubble announcement. Today's announcement means we still can't stay together.

Being isolated with a 17 & 20 year old, is not the same as having another adult similar age to chat with and spend time with.

No boris said can join with another household to be one household , so there is support and no adult is coping alone anymore .
Thank you boris !

CW said that it has to be 2 households that have one adult each only - single parents are ok where children are under 18. He said one adult only per household reduced the risk as fewer overall contacts.

@Movinghouse2015 yes you can as you have a child under 18

Chris Whitty said both households must be single adult households when asked a question by the public. This needs clarification before the bubbles start on Saturday.

Once again as clear as mud and I am sure will be open to interpretation with people bending the rules to suit themselves. I can imagine some justifying their behaviour by saying they are part of a social bubble (yet they may be part of various bubbles).

Problem is that Boris was vague, but he later asked CW to answer a viewer's question and that is when CW said one adult per household. Be fantastic to be able to come away from a briefing with no ambiguity!

Bugger that I’m following Boris !

I know it's against THE RULES but I can't see families now not seeing both grandparents, especially with all the headlines "you can now hug your grandkids" coming out. Does seem a bit harsh to only allow this to solo grandparents. I understand they are limiting group size but I wonder how many people will obey the single person rule.

@Cherryghost I don't think it's allowed because they're shielding but even if it was allowed I wouldn't do it. It's increasing their risk massively. It can't just be about what's allowed, there has to be an element of risk analysis personally.