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Is there any evidence that the "idiots" on beaches etc did actually cause spread?

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LaceCurtains · 07/06/2020 09:23

I wasn't one of them, I can't think of anything less fun than sitting on a crowded beach and I have beautiful walking country close to home, but what they did seemed to be within the rules. They were told they could travel as much as they like and be outdoors anywhere, as long as 2m apart. It would be unusual to sit closer than 2m from a stranger, even on a busy beach.

Other people seemed so cross with them, but they were only doing what they were told was OK, so be cross with government, if you must. However, if there hasn't been a related spike, doesn't that prove that there was absolutely nothing wrong with the trips or the advice?

If it had caused a problem over BH weekend, wouldn't we be seeing a big increase in hospital admissions/deaths by now?

And if we aren't doesn't that mean mass outdoor events might be OK to go ahead?

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EnlightenedOwl · 07/06/2020 09:27

I would agree but wait for the hysteria brigade to turn up. The VIRUS is everywhere you know

EnlightenedOwl · 07/06/2020 09:31

And here we go Hmm

VettiyaIruken · 07/06/2020 09:32

Just a quick Google would suggest some areas have seen a small rise recently.

DullPortraits · 07/06/2020 09:32

Theres no rules saying you can't hang off a cliff edge with one hand but common sense should you have any tells you not to do it so you wouldn't. Why do people insist on needing to be babysat by Boris?

VettiyaIruken · 07/06/2020 09:34

Oh stop it. It's hardly hysteria to answer a question about whether a spike has been reported by linking to reports of rises.

Hysteria would be me typing OMG YES THOUSANDS WILL DIE.

So take your silly little eye roll and shove it up your arse.

EnlightenedOwl · 07/06/2020 09:35

@VettiyaIruken

Oh stop it. It's hardly hysteria to answer a question about whether a spike has been reported by linking to reports of rises.

Hysteria would be me typing OMG YES THOUSANDS WILL DIE.

So take your silly little eye roll and shove it up your arse.

You need to fact check before posting random links
Slothsarecreepy · 07/06/2020 09:36

FFS. The rise in North Somerset was due to an outbreak in Weston Genetal Hospital, came from there and contained there. Nothing to do with tourists or beaches.

www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/health-officials-confirm-source-north-4193110.amp&ved=2ahUKEwjXmr77oe_pAhXiQhUIHVTUADkQFjAAegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw3lOK-EBzI2RDQT6CEK6_sI&ampcf=1

EnlightenedOwl · 07/06/2020 09:36

Or do you think if it's in the media it's TRUE????

MsTSwift · 07/06/2020 09:38

We had a blissful day on the beach last weekend. Really boosted us all. Beach empty and remote

VettiyaIruken · 07/06/2020 09:38

Oh don't be so ridiculous. It is widely reported there have been some small rises in some areas. It is perfectly ok to accept that you know, it isn't the same thing as donning a tin foil hat and declaring bill gates is chipping us all.

MarcelineMissouri · 07/06/2020 09:40

I have to say those articles don’t really seem to be pointing to any kind of significant spike.
Here is a quote from the first article that was posted....

‘ It is not possible to trace what may have prompted the increase but one significant factor could be that testing was made available just one week earlier and testing centres operate just two days a week, with results taking 48 hours to be obtained.’

VettiyaIruken · 07/06/2020 09:40

Oh no, if it is widely reported I absolutely believe it's a giant conspiracy to make us believe the end is nigh.

Or, you know, it's an ongoing situation and when people get together it's quite possible to see some more cases.

PickleKing · 07/06/2020 09:41

Well at the end of the day, something is causing your huge numbers in Britain and if everyone just stayed at home like other countries have done then it would probably have saved a lot of lives.

MarcelineMissouri · 07/06/2020 09:41

Small rises (and a lot of those case numbers are not even in double figures) that are kept under control and do not continue or spiral are not really a problem and only to be expected as things loosen a little surely.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 07/06/2020 09:41

Possibly small cases. But no sign yet of the "second wave" that some people were insistent would happen.

Laiste · 07/06/2020 09:43

A lot of the outrage was because they were all Non Locals.

That being the case then a 'local' spike isn't what we'd see. The Hordes Of Infectious Non-Locals would have all gone away to spread it in all directions, no?

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LaceCurtains · 07/06/2020 09:44

The South West increase seems to be becuse of a cluster based in Weston General Hospital, which was going on when the people were on the beaches, so it can't have been caused by it.

If increases were "small" but the number of people was huge, doesn't that say it wasn't that much if an issue?

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Lindy2 · 07/06/2020 09:45

It takes around 7-14 days to show symptoms so I guess the beach goers who caught it will only now be finding that out.

I would hope that as it was bright sunlight that day (viruses do not do well in UV light) and they were mostly sitting still in groups that the spread might not be too bad.

The protesters this weekend, shouting (and therefore spreading droplets of moisture in their breath), standing close to each other and moving around so they are mixing with different people during the day, low UV light and probably travelling in enclosed inside spaces on public transport. Well we will find out in about 2 weeks time. I would be very worried though if I had been in that crowd.

EnlightenedOwl · 07/06/2020 09:46

@VettiyaIruken

Oh don't be so ridiculous. It is widely reported there have been some small rises in some areas. It is perfectly ok to accept that you know, it isn't the same thing as donning a tin foil hat and declaring bill gates is chipping us all.
You need to fact check before posting links
EnlightenedOwl · 07/06/2020 09:47

@Lindy2

It takes around 7-14 days to show symptoms so I guess the beach goers who caught it will only now be finding that out.

I would hope that as it was bright sunlight that day (viruses do not do well in UV light) and they were mostly sitting still in groups that the spread might not be too bad.

The protesters this weekend, shouting (and therefore spreading droplets of moisture in their breath), standing close to each other and moving around so they are mixing with different people during the day, low UV light and probably travelling in enclosed inside spaces on public transport. Well we will find out in about 2 weeks time. I would be very worried though if I had been in that crowd.

Do you actually believe what you are saying. No hope getting out of this mess while people think this
Larkspurandhollyhocks · 07/06/2020 09:50

Do you actually believe what you are saying. No hope getting out of this mess while people think this

Which part of that post is incorrect in your esteemed opinion?

SamSeabornforPresident · 07/06/2020 09:51

What about VE Day? Was there a spike after that? I'm in Scotland so I don't think there was the same focus on VE Day up here. I'm interested in figures up here at the end of the week, 2 weeks after lockdown (sort of) ended.

VettiyaIruken · 07/06/2020 09:51

No thank you.
I'm quite happy to carry on reading a wide variety of news reports, the John Hopkins site and the covid update site and see from that that people are still catching it and that when groups of people get together there'll be some cases because of that and that there will be periodic small spikes (and dips) ongoing for quite some time.

If you want to call that hysteria, you crack on. I don't give a shit what you think about anything.

EnlightenedOwl · 07/06/2020 09:53

Well you need to realise we will have to live with the VIRUS

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