Can’t see how children will be able to go back to school in 2021

[Ouchy]

Let’s face it. The R0 may not be controlled for months. Vaccine unlikely until 2021. Teaching unions up in arms. People unwilling to accept the risk of the virus (low for many). I’m getting more and more concerned and the government haven’t published any forward plans for how school can be restarted in the various scenarios we may be facing come September (have they?). What on earth are the DfE and the Education Secretary doing during the working week if they’re not planning this stuff? Is there something I’ve missed - am I mistaken? I’m getting more and more concerned. The children are low risk - there needs to be a plan and fast as their educations and social development are being kind of ignored for something they’re super low risk for as individuals themselves. Looking for reassurance really - am I mistaken or being silly?

If this continues beyond September, I will resign, I have to do what is right for my DC. I have a very niche job in the NHS and patient care will be stopped/delayed if I resign, but I don't really have another option, not able to take any AL.

We are going to try and get a tutor - I don't want my DC to fall behind.

Pomegranatepompom

The school that I work at requires all pieces of work to get feedback. This I feel should be standard. even if its just a few words.

All the teachers that I know want to go back into the classroom, I miss the kids, the fun and the face to face interaction of the job.

I feel for all parents that are struggling, for whatever reason. We have kids that have two parents working full time from home and a minimal ability to access the work electronically. (we provide work packs).

The situation isn't any good for anyone.

Just read on another thread that the Scottish government has used the pandemic to reduce the paid for nursery hours for preschoolers. I’m worried that covid could be the end of universal face to face state education - if online learning is acceptable and kids at home also acceptable for months then the government thinks its acceptable long term - well then record the lessons for the whole country centrally and stream them to all kids. Set some computer marked tests. Won’t need more than a handful of teachers. Dead cheap

It's very emotional. I wish there was an end date - something for everyone to work towards.

Honestly, the hysteria and hyperbole is astonishing.

‘Go and ask the government?’ That’s the sort of reply my teenager would give, tbh.

It sounds as though people blame government guidance (or lack of), however I doubt those same people would be willing to follow government guidance to pick ourselves up off the floor and get the fuck on with it.

Just read on another thread that the Scottish government has used the pandemic to reduce the paid for nursery hours for preschoolers

That's outrageous. Disadvantaged children in particular NEED this time.

I mean, honestly, it’s a good job mumsnet isn’t in government, because I think we would basically legislate to stop actual breathing, as it’s so risky.

The drama of it all!

No school until 2021, removal of all face to face teaching forever. Get a fucking grip.

“We currently live in a society where there is no basic provision to be educated, get married, learn to drive, go to a funeral, see a dentist”

Well that’s you’re doom right there - no need to monger it. You must be being ironic I think to say everyone is worrying excessively and then list a load of stuff that means we currently are not living in a functioning society.

As in the shit has already hit the fan. The bad thing is happening now, no need worry it about it coming, it’s here. This isn’t worry for what might happen it’s people saying they won’t tolerate what is happening

If we deregister dc would we be entitled to their school funding to pay for private tuition? Not sure how it works,

You think it’s doom mongering to state the truth that you can’t even currently get married or get an education?

The fact is, we cannot carry on living like this, though the doomsters seemingly think we should.

@CountessFrog Yes. I can only hope MN is not representative. We won't be able to do anything - ever !

The situation isn't any good for anyone.

If only that were true, it would have ended weeks ago.

I think it’s probably too risky to go on mumsnet. We don’t know enough about this virus, it might be transmissible by thought.

I don’t even know who last touched this keyboard, and a man just sneezed as he walked past my house. It’s highly unlikely to be hay fever because the R rate in my area is 0.4, which is terrifying.

if online learning is acceptable and kids at home also acceptable for months then the government thinks its acceptable long term - well then record the lessons for the whole country centrally and stream them to all kids.
Although I'm setting work online and marking online I still know the children I'm setting it for - I've taught them before and I know what they look like and what their abilities are and whether or not they have any additional needs. Some one-size-fits-all central teaching machine will not be able to do that.

My kids could do with new shoes but I can’t get them measured. I think it’s part of a government strategy to remove all feet from all children FOREVER. I heard from Shirley on the checkout in Aldi that there will be no feet until 2021, and that’s optimistic.

I blame the tories. If you voted for them, you should be ashamed.

In confused - No it’s not doom mongering to say it’s shit currently. It’s also not doom mongering to say there are some with interests in stopping things going back to how they were before and that should be resisted!

The current situation is intolerable, it cannot continue. However the governments are making noises about it continuing into the next term, This isn’t exaggeration - wales and Scotland have announced blended learning. Funding is being pulled. Kids are being screwed over. This needs to be highlighted to people so that they can protest it.

Talking of teenage responses...

Of course schools will be going back in September. Furlough ends in October. It doesn’t take a genius to work out that if schools don’t go back full time then many thousands of families won’t be able to physically keep their houses, pay their bills or basically, survive as it will mean one person having to give up their job.

That’s aside from the educational consequences. The government doesn’t have the money to support all those families until 2021 so schools will be going back. The fallout if they don’t will be far far scarier.

I can only presume that CountessFrog thinks she's being witty.

Also kinda puts into perspective those stupid fines schools dole out for daring to take your kids out of school for a holiday.

What a fcking joke that is now

And on that I agree with you, however there is so much utter tripe written on mumsnet, mostly unsourced, and written as though it is absolutely definite.

Mumsnet is full of people complaining when the government suddenly change their minds, however they simultaneously think that everything they’ve heard is set in stone.

Can’t both be true.

@LyndaLaHughes - another profession I would say is working in a psych hospital. I'm not saying teachers shouldn't be protected but just answering your question.