Can’t see how children will be able to go back to school in 2021

[Ouchy]

Let’s face it. The R0 may not be controlled for months. Vaccine unlikely until 2021. Teaching unions up in arms. People unwilling to accept the risk of the virus (low for many). I’m getting more and more concerned and the government haven’t published any forward plans for how school can be restarted in the various scenarios we may be facing come September (have they?). What on earth are the DfE and the Education Secretary doing during the working week if they’re not planning this stuff? Is there something I’ve missed - am I mistaken? I’m getting more and more concerned. The children are low risk - there needs to be a plan and fast as their educations and social development are being kind of ignored for something they’re super low risk for as individuals themselves. Looking for reassurance really - am I mistaken or being silly?

[StrawberryBlondeStar]

Agreed Coffee it’s a tragedy. Yes the government has to get the economy going, but why do we have to forget about schools? We built hospitals in 10 days, we’ve had the ventilator challenge, the vaccine commitment where is the Plan for Education?

[Nihiloxica]

Have the education unions threatened the govt with strikes?

Fat fucking chance they're going to strike when they are currently at home on full pay.

[Appuskidu]

Have the education unions threatened the govt with strikes?

Nope. All the unions wanted was to be involved in the discussions.

[Coffeeandbeans]

@Appuskidu

Have the education unions threatened the govt with strikes?

Nope. All the unions wanted was to be involved in the discussions.

So what happened re discussions? Was there no compromise and ultimately the govt said ok don’t open secondary schools until September at the earliest? Did the unions just say no it can’t be done? Yet shop workers, nhs, bus drivers etc don’t have the same power.

[Appuskidu]

The unions just weren’t invited.

Eventually, a meeting was set up with some scientists and the union bosses but Gavin Williamson didn’t actually bother to go himself as he didn’t want to politicise the issue.

[Beawillalwaysbetopdog]

Fat fucking chance they're going to strike when they are currently working from home on full pay.

[SleepingStandingUp]

Clearly the rate of deaths will be non existent by September even July. Schools will be back full time. Would put money on it.
Haven't they announced today that schools def won't be back by end of term and many won't be back properly by September.

Clearly the rate of deaths will be non existent by September even July. wishful thinking I fear

[Piggywaspushed]

Interesting you should say that coffee on the day that doctors are mounting a legal challenge against the government's failure to protect their lives and those of other NHS workers.

[SleepingStandingUp]

www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-52969679

[SleepingStandingUp]

The plan for all primary school years in England to go back to school before the end of term is to be dropped by the government.

There had been an aim for all primary pupils to spend four weeks in school before the summer break.

But it is no longer thought to be feasible and instead schools will be given "flexibility" over whether or not to admit more pupils.

Head teachers' leaders said it had never been a practical possibility.

It comes after Health Secretary Matt Hancock conceded at Monday's Downing Street briefing that secondary schools in England may not fully reopen until September "at the earliest

[SleepingStandingUp]

Other countries are recording no deaths even at this point. but we haven't had the same experience Re numbers as them

[Coffeeandbeans]

@Piggywaspushed I’m not surprised. The PPE fiasco and the care homes were a disaster.

[Piggywaspushed]

Yes, indeed, I agree . Any threads started blaming the BMA yet though?

[SleepingStandingUp]

@Rainbow12e maybe. We're shielding a 5 yo with 6 month old twins, I think I've. Just lost the ability to see life as any different to now. Even if the rest of the world goes back to normal cos "the vulnerable can just stay inside" I can't envisage the numbers being low enough for us to be free

[Appuskidu]

With the shielded it is more difficult but I think generally,all other kids will most definitely be back to school full time in September. If the number of deaths are zero or close enough, they simply have to go back to normal schooling

The difficulty we’ll have in school is covering the shielded staff. We have a significant number who haven’t returned. If they aren’t able to return in September, the school cannot reopen as normal.

[SleepingStandingUp]

App would bank staff not suffice? Genuine qn

[Appuskidu]

Were in a deficit budget and have been told no supply-all teacher cover has been done by TAs this year.

However the TAs we did have are also shielding!

If the government give the school additional funding, it’s a possibility.

It will be difficult to recruit good temporary agency TAs to work with our high need EHCP 1:1 children though.

[SidSparrow]

It's such a pile of horse shit. If people are showing symptoms then they should stay home. Good hygiene and some common sense is all that's needed now.

www.cnbc.com/2020/06/08/asymptomatic-coronavirus-patients-arent-spreading-new-infections-who-says.html

[SleepingStandingUp]

If people are showing symptoms then they should stay home. of course but you also need to stay home if someone you live with has symptoms. So you send the kdis back, at the weekend the 3 yo has a temp, that's a week off for them and 2 for you. Al or unpaid or sick leave? Then the kid in scho gets a temp, so now presumably the whole bubble is off so parents are back off.

Pre Clovid19 our school positively encouraged kids to come in regardless of sickness unless it was d&v.

[SidSparrow]

@sleepstandingup

Yes, exaxtly! That's common sense. A pain in the backside, but certainly much better than everyone staying home forever.