When will people be happy to start living with the risk of catching Coronavirus?

[wakeupitsabeautifulmorning]

Considering there possibly won't be a vaccination for quite some time, if at all, but things are going to have to start returning to normal for the sake of everything else - economy, education, other health issues etc. There is currently so much opposition to easing out of lockdown, people will have to get back to work and schools cannot be part time for years (childcare issues plus the massive impact on disadvantaged dc, plus the dc not engaging in home learning). Spoke to a few people today who are horrified at the thought of a return to normal as they are frightened of catching the virus. I was a bit surprised a they were under 35 with dc (no known health problems). It's like they think it's just going to miraculously vanish.

I'm pretty much ready now

Now!

Now, and have been for a good while.

Mid April

When people say they are happy to take the risk...do they mean the personal risk of catching it, or of exponential growth of infection?

Never. Linda Lusardi said she (I'm sorry - this isn't a pleasant detail) brought up blue liquid. It's very odd. I'm not giving up on lockdown. No way.

@Inkpaperstars

When people say they are happy to take the risk...do they mean the personal risk of catching it, or of exponential growth of infection?

Both.

We have barely been anywhere for weeks as DH is shielding. DD is now getting panic attacks if she has to go anywhere (like picking up a takeaway tonight). How is she ever going to get back to work? The longer this goes on the worse it will get for people like her.

Now for me. But I don't think that's how the majority feel (in the general population...not on this thread!)

Thanks for answering Bamboozled, I hope others will too.

I thought the thread was about personal confidence but then some people were mentioning policy/lockdown which is obviously not about individual risk so it became confused. I think it is better to clear if it is neither/one of/both.

If everything went back to normal right now, I wouldn’t care. I’m not worried in the slightest about the virus

Happy to now. Am almost 60 and in good health, am not at all concerned about CV and want to get on with life, not live this crazy half life. Refuse to live in fear and trembling, appalled at the craven attitude of many people giving up their civil liberties so easily.

I am now. I have crohns and I am 2.5 years past cancer. I want to live again and see where fate takes.me.

Have worked through out , apparently on the vulnerable list due to being very very fat , have had multiple contact with Covid positive patients with the normal level of PPE ( gloves, plastic pinny, safety glasses and normal surgical mask). Haven't felt anxious for a while now. Not complacent, just not anxious.

I think the government needs to work out a way to protect those on the shielding list longer term and explain the risk level to those on the vulnerable list, so that those people can then make informed decisions about how they want to proceed.

Personally I hope we get back to normal soon.

@TheDailyCarbuncle The approx 7 weeks you quote to 27 April is the 'normal' (sad) numbers of women killed by their partners. That is 2 per week, so no different than previously.

Cancer referrals were up and running fairly quickly many weeks ago, and cancer services resumed. Any delay is of course upsetting but it's a pandemic so things are difficult.

So basically no actual deaths from lockdown as we speak, as opposed to almost 40,000 actual deaths and a health service only just avoiding total collapse because of cases.

This is a worldwide emergency and unfortunately there is no absolutely 'right' way of dealing with it, except with hindsight.

Of course lockdown needs gradual and thoughtful easing but it's ridiculous to say the cure was worse than the disease.

I think in an ideal world, we would be confident that we’ll be ok & take risks to avoid catching the virus. However, with so many still dying each day, it’s hard to not worry. I recently spent some time on a ventilator (not Covid related) & wouldn’t wish that upon anyone.

UnholyStramash

Gallows humour is the way to go I reckon.

Stuck in with 4 teens for 12 weeks is a hoot.

I got one of these vege pies too. I can't believe it's not got lard in the pastry, or I'd sent it to you.

Ooh and minty mushy peas. It's not all bad.

I'd love to have been at the meeting where they designed the food box. It just needs some Wurthers originals to top it off.

Now, but only because I'm a teacher in work with no social distancing, so I have no other choice to convince myself I'm comfortable with it

And before I get told I shouldn't take the piss, I have cancelled the food box after the first one appeared unannounced.

I was fine throughout and so are all my immediate family, all of whom are working or have previously worked in front-line NHS roles. All their colleagues are also not concerned about their individual risk of covid and want other NHS services to resume etc. Basically my experience is that anyone who has been working throughout is much less anxious and wants the rest of life to go as back to normal as possible, as quickly as possible. Those who have been hiding away are the most anxious and the most likely to oppose reducing restrictions. It's like ant anxiety, avoidance behaviours increase it (irrationally).

I dont think anyone Is HAPPY to live along side the virus but I think a lot are more ACCEPTING that we will have too. Life as it is now Is just not sustainable on any level. Some people won't give a shit about any of it and do what they want how they wont, some will be too scared to leave their front door ever again but I think majority will accept and adhere to changes to get lives moving again.

I can't make head or tail of all the different rules, so we'll just stay in a bit longer as my DH is vulnerable. I'd really like to take him for a drive to get a change of scene, but he's not well enough to go for a walk, so we can't 'drive to exercise.'

@pinktaxi
There are actual deaths from lockdown.
My colleague's 30 year old husband died because his planned heart operation was cancelled in March. This could have been avoided. It is a tragedy.
I am sure he is not the only one.

Now, for the most part. The permanent banning of handshakes would be no great loss. Similarly coughing into elbows or sleeves, staying home if you’re ill and regular hand washing should be a permanent change that would probably reduce the incidence of all sorts of germs. Beyond that, I’m ready for normal life to resume. Both for me personally, though I have a suspicion I’ve already had it, and nationally I’m happy to run the risk of a “second wave”. I don’t actually think there’ll be one, and if there is we might as well get it over with. What’s going to be magically better in the autumn, except a load of flu cases thrown in? A couple of generations ago I don’t think we’d even have noticed covid, much less thrown the economy, education etc under a bus because of it.

I have worked in the community all the way through this pandemic. I've always accepted the risk, it's not even that big of a risk, I'm more at danger driving around all day in my car from a RTC. 🤷🏻‍♀️