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Well, well, well face masks mandatory on public transport now

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Cherryghost · 04/06/2020 17:12

It's now mandatory to wear face mask on public transport with exceptions for disability, young children etc.
This should have been done ages ago.
They also admitting face masks offers some protection

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MarshaBradyo · 05/06/2020 07:37

I wonder if other countries have the same kind of posts as below.

Tg the CMO etc are visible and it isn’t all SM garbage.

Breadandroses1 · 05/06/2020 07:39

It's worth being honest that this is clearly a behaviour change intervention rather than anything that's going to hugely reduce the R rate. In London we have about 127 C19 cases per million people. The chance you will be sat next to that person is tiny (especially considering how empty transport is) the chance you will get it from them tinier. Yes there are areas with higher rates but probably correspondingly lower public transport use.

Fully suspect the aim is to remind us the virus is 'still with us' rather than actually any practical use in preventing infection.

Balhammom · 05/06/2020 07:43

Grow up people.

We have senior, independent clinicians advising on the use of masks.

Either wear one or don’t use public transport. No one has a ‘right’ to endanger others.

IvinghoeBeacon · 05/06/2020 07:43

According to my father, who is a retired surgeon, masks were introduced to protect the surgical team, not the patient. So make of that what you will.

BamboozledandBefuddled · 05/06/2020 07:45

AlecTrevelyan006 Brilliant post. I honestly doubt that the government's actions are now dictated by the virus. This is about seeing how far they can go and how much control people will accept. They must be ecstatic at the results. I believe that there's been a systematic attempt for years to dumb down the population while discouraging independent and critical thinking. By god, that's paying dividends now.

I'm not scared of the virus - neither are my family, even though they're high risk if they get it. What I am scared of is many people in this country, and what they are actively assisting in leading us into.

Firef1y72 · 05/06/2020 07:48

@Lilybet1980

I think this is to make people feel safer so they are more likely to go out and spend money. I don’t think it’s anything to do with the science.

I also think it is preceding a reduction in social distancing guidelines from 2 to 1m.

I don’t disagree with either of those things.

You know I was just thinking the same thing about the dropping of the distance. After all Boris slipped in a little teaser about that on Wednesday that doesn't seem to have been picked up on very much
Breadandroses1 · 05/06/2020 07:53

I think that's right. Because if it was an immediate necessity you'd introduce it immediately or at latest this Monday. Not wait an additional week. Suspect there will be another announcement soon- and it aligns with shops opening up.

MarshaBradyo · 05/06/2020 07:57

Yes probably to coincide with shops opening. But could also be just because more travelling on pt into town. Could be either I reckon.

Drivingdownthe101 · 05/06/2020 07:59

@AlecTrevelyan006

And now these unforgiveable fknuggets have ruled that face coverings are to be mandatory on public transport. So shortly they'll be mandatory in all settings, and the transformation of Britain into another nation of fear will be complete. All part of the project to convince us that we should stay cowed and not question their grotesque overreach. fk 'em. I am so tired of this idiotic health theatre and the pandering to the Hysterical jumped up little Hitlers inventing laws overnight that criminalise any behaviour they fancy. There's no longer even a pretence of being led by the science; this is just their way to lay the ground to unwind their equally idiotic antisocial distancing policy so that people can actually use public transport. And to placate the unions, rather than just rounding up all the union leaders in a field and breathing on them from less than two metres away until they die of fear.

And all the while deaths outside care homes trend to zero. Of course there are deaths in care homes. It's what fking care homes are for. If we actually cared about our old people we wouldn't warehouse them in value-engineered quasi-prisons until they have the decency to pop off. We didn't care in 2018. So why are we pretending that we care now?

The staggering thing is that thousands of Brits are prepared to rise up in protest at the behaviour of someone else's police force 5,000 miles away, but do sweet fk all when their own government makes houseguests illegal.

I don't think there has ever been a time in history when the entire world has lost its collective mind so thoroughly and for so long. The blame lies with social media and the astonishing percentage of people who for some inexplicable reason think it's a reliable source of information rather than just village gossip writ large. People now believe the crap they read on Facefk and ttter more than the evidence of their own eyes. Based on the public's reaction, you'd think we had unburied bodies piling up on street corners, and barrows going past with men crying out "bring out yer dead". But I still don't have a personal connection to anyone under 80 who's died. In my entire personal extended network there is one person I can name who's been hospitalised with Covid during the whole pandemic. And most of the over-80s I know or know of who've died recently didn't die of Covid. (Mostly cancer, as it happens, and of course that's a whole 'nother story).

I wonder how long they'll be able to milk it after the deaths caused by Covid have gone to zero? How long will we carry on counting "deaths with Covid19 appearing on the death certificate" bearing in mind this requires neither a positive test nor a doctor actually seeing the patient at any point? How long will they carry on bleating like Chicken Little about a second wave, even after no-one's getting ill?

Anyone want to bet that the "temporary" Coronavirus Regulations will still be in force next year, in five years, in ten years - like speed limits, that other "temporary experiment"? Anyone want to start a sweepstakes on how long it is before we lockdown again because someone in Guangzhou gets a sniffle? Because next time Britain won't want to be last to the party, will it? Do you see Shapps, or Patel, or that egregious Khan giving up the power they now have? Do you see Boris growing a backbone any time soon after his brush with death. I don't.

Excellent post.
MarginalGain · 05/06/2020 08:02

@AlecTrevelyan006

this 100%

MarginalGain · 05/06/2020 08:04

I'd love to know the exit criteria for wearing masks. Is there any?

MarginalGain · 05/06/2020 08:06

The exit criteria to stop wearing masks, that is.

Inkpaperstars · 05/06/2020 08:06

Yes, that's right Alec. All the Tories have ever really wanted was to lie to everyone about a virus until they were too scared to leave their homes and had to paid by the state and ever rising debt. That has been a personal dream for Boris and it is just a coincidence that so many other countries decided at the same time that such an approach was the only way to fulfil their destiny. This must be a joyous time for them, finally able to put into practice the political ideals and dreams they have held for so long.

MarshaBradyo · 05/06/2020 08:08

Ink haha yep.

MarginalGain · 05/06/2020 08:09

It's really not a Tory vs Labour thing anymore, it's a statist creep. Boris is being swept along by the mob.

phoebesphalange · 05/06/2020 08:11

@marginalgain yes me too. This is what I object to. We are told to do all these things without any end in sight. Are we wearing masks forever more? Some people will, and that is a sad thought.

AlecTrevelyan006 · 05/06/2020 08:12

It doesn’t matter what they want - it’s the inevitable consequence of poor decision making by an inexperienced and ineffective government that is hurling us towards a joyless, poverty-stricken depression

AlecTrevelyan006 · 05/06/2020 08:14

We are living in 1984 on Animal Farm.

Derbygerbil · 05/06/2020 08:14

We didn’t need face coverings when only a few use public transport and we could labour round grocery shops at social distance. But if we are to mix more closely and for longer, and really get this country back on its feet, we’re going to have to use the tube etc more normally again. Numbers in London may be very low now, and the risk is small...but the more things open up, the more
likely numbers will rise, so the more simple measures to help stem it’s re-growth, the better (like wearing a face covering on the tube like they do in practically everyone country on the planet - even Jair Bolsonaro was pictured wearing one last week!)

I want to get back to normal.... I want my freedom to go abroad again and be part of a travel zone with other countries that have effectively contained the virus. I want to go to the cinema again. I want to go to a restaurant again. So please can those who seem determined to rubbish basic public health practices just stop with their teenage strops and behave like responsible adults and stop behaving, and lobbying for us to behave, in ways that will cause us to go back to square one and where we were back in March.

DomDoesWotHeWants · 05/06/2020 08:17

I want to get back to normal.... I want my freedom to go abroad again and be part of a travel zone with other countries that have effectively contained the virus. I want to go to the cinema again. I want to go to a restaurant again. So please can those who seem determined to rubbish basic public health practices just stop with their teenage strops and behave like responsible adults and stop behaving, and lobbying for us to behave, in ways that will cause us to go back to square one and where we were back in March.

Absolutely agree.

Can't believe some of the ridiculous posts on here. If wearing masks means people can go out more then I'm all for it.

Lynda07 · 05/06/2020 08:18

Inkpaperstars Fri 05-Jun-20 08:06:59
Yes, that's right Alec. All the Tories have ever really wanted was to lie to everyone about a virus until they were too scared to leave their homes and had to paid by the state and ever rising debt. That has been a personal dream for Boris and it is just a coincidence that so many other countries decided at the same time that such an approach was the only way to fulfil their destiny. This must be a joyous time for them, finally able to put into practice the political ideals and dreams they have held for so long.
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None of this has been beneficial to the state. Also, if that was the case I do not see why the government is gradually urging us all to get back to some normality, places opening up, some children back at school, small gatherings allowed, etc, despite risk of infection. They would have preferred to keep strict lockdown, however that would be economic suicide and money is all that matters to them.

Honestly where do people get these ideas. They have no logic.

If you believe your own propaganda, I assume you have been carrying on as if there was no virus, visiting people, going out as normal, not taking any precautions.

MarginalGain · 05/06/2020 08:18

Derbygerbil please stop trying to correct people's thinking. It's unseemly.

MarshaBradyo · 05/06/2020 08:19

Honestly where do people get these ideas. They have no logic.

I wonder that too. It’s rabbit hole propaganda stuff.

Pikachubaby · 05/06/2020 08:20

Agree with Alec also

Teawiththat · 05/06/2020 08:21

Face coverings protect other people, their effectiveness within an enclosed space accounts for the fact that x% won't be able to wear one. Why are people so against them? I genuinely don't understand. What it Orwellian about it? A lot of countries have been wearing them for a while now, I don't see the control or infringement of anything. I forget though that here in England we are so different to every other country on the planet. An exit strategy for not wearing them? Haha. They make identifying people harder, so if you believe the 1984-ness why would they be keen for something which makes surveillance harder go on longer than they believe neccessary? Some people need to get a grip.

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