Well, well, well face masks mandatory on public transport now

[Cherryghost]

It's now mandatory to wear face mask on public transport with exceptions for disability, young children etc.
This should have been done ages ago.
They also admitting face masks offers some protection

“It’s against my religion to cover my face” Should work nicely...it does the other way round. (Freedom is my religion)

Freedom to infect others with a virus that could
be deadly to them or their loved ones... Do you also believe in freedom to injure or harm people in other ways too?

Mascotte stop with your 'in studies'!! Are you a DM reporter?

In the world ofvthe Bleedin' Obvious, any covering over your respiratory outlets, nose'n'mouth, that restricts your projectile range- surely has to be beneficial??

Do you need a byline from New Scientist, circa 1972, or whatever, to back you up??

@Mascotte

I want life to get back to normal, or as close as we can to it, as soon as possible. I want my freedom. The more people refuse to take simple steps such as this, the longer it will take.

The science is clearly a smokescreen, as your interest is in challenging this is due to your libertarian principles... which ironically will, along with all your friends who eschew any measures to suppress transmission, ensure it takes longer than it will need to to obtain my liberty.

In the world ofvthe Bleedin' Obvious, any covering over your respiratory outlets, nose'n'mouth, that restricts your projectile range- surely has to be beneficial??

Indeed, as otherwise tissues would be pointless and counterproductive... And I’ve never seen anyone complain about their use!

I just find it hard to believe that if our lives depended on it we'd not put on an oxygen mask, have anaesthetic or have a incubating tube inserted. Thats where we are.

Some of us have indeed torn them off our faces in medical situations. Many would require sedating before they could tolerate them.

People said that tissues wouldn't be around forever and yet here they still are. The authoritarian bastards.

No one working on covid wards are having a great time wearing full PPE. It’s hot, sweaty, the masks dig in and the visors steam up. It’s exhausting and miserable. It’s worn for everyone’s safety though. You don’t get hospital staff talking about it eroding their freedom or finding reasons not to wear it. You aren’t being asked to do something intolerable and you aren’t being asked to do it for the fun of it . But it’s time to take responsibility, to do so for the common good and because we all need to do what we can to get this virus under control. Other countries aren’t whining on about it. Why does the UK have to be this bloody pathetic. Are things not bad enough?

@5MikesOut

No one working on covid wards are having a great time wearing full PPE. It’s hot, sweaty, the masks dig in and the visors steam up. It’s exhausting and miserable. It’s worn for everyone’s safety though. You don’t get hospital staff talking about it eroding their freedom or finding reasons not to wear it. You aren’t being asked to do something intolerable and you aren’t being asked to do it for the fun of it . But it’s time to take responsibility, to do so for the common good and because we all need to do what we can to get this virus under control. Other countries aren’t whining on about it. Why does the UK have to be this bloody pathetic. Are things not bad enough?

It’s the great British exceptionalism. Just take it on the chin, let’s exercise some of our great British common sense, just pop in a paracetamol and get on with things etc etc, and we’ll be fine. Let’s not look at what virtually every other country in a similar position to us is doing.

It’s quite embarrassing tbh. But then again we have had no proper public awareness campaign either so it’s unsurprising.

If wearing a face mask on public transport is tyranny then all I can say is it’s obvious too many have no sodding idea what tyranny is .

Furthermore , nobody will asphyxiate. Jeepers , nurses , Drs , all sorts of people who wear such masks would be dropping like flies , they do no.

You won’t get CO2 toxicity , yuh need that shit to breathe. It’s why Buteyko breathing and the paper bag trick for hyperventilating works.

Get a grip

Redolent. You are right it IS embarrassing . Embarrassing, pathetic and self-centred. In hospitals and care homes throughout the country we are fighting to get masks, visors, the correct grade of aprons. It’s worn all shift and it’s stifling and knackering . But it’s essential. I just do not understand the “it’s hot” and “I can’t wear a mask because I will feel panicky” and the “Does this remind you of a certain person in the 1930s” crap. My responses are yes it can be hot, if it’s going to make you panic get a sick note and stay at home and no it doesn’t make me fear this is bringing us one step closer to enabling a Nazi regime . Finding reasons not to wear a mask is willfully antisocial and sticking two fingers up at the people you encounter.

Just a reminder of how we ended up where we are. London on March 20 th..

Has anyone got any thoughts on how I might get a small child to wear one? I am a key worker and commute with a 3yo, who are apparently supposed to wear them. I have already tried and she rips them off. The train is deserted anyway - plus we've had C19.

The guidance on kids is all over the place, I've seen 3 different ages so far. I will obviously try but...toddlers.

wondering about the intercity, my journey on the 15th is 3.5 hours, I'll at least need a drink!
I am flying with BA soon, they require masks but have said they will feed us.

Fuck that. I'm not a dog and will not be muzzled.

I love how people are angry at Boris for not doing what other countries are doing and when he does what other countries are doing, they are still angry. You couldn’t make it up. It just shows that they don’t give a fuck about how to control the virus, it’s just about sticking the boot in.

Oh and thank fuck I drive because there’s no way I’d be wearing a mask. They are ineffective because people don’t use them properly so what’s the point

@bulletjournalbilly - don’t be stupid and selfish. It’s a face covering to try and protect others from you.

We are amazing as a nation, we complain that we are one of the worst effected countrys in the world, we point to countrys like south korea, then when we try to introduce masks and track and trace all everyone can do is find ways it wont work or not to do it personally, we blame the government for inaction but you have to ask how much of the problem is of our own making.

@Dadnotamum72

We are amazing as a nation, we complain that we are one of the worst effected countrys in the world, we point to countrys like south korea, then when we try to introduce masks and track and trace all everyone can do is find ways it wont work or not to do it personally, we blame the government for inaction but you have to ask how much of the problem is of our own making.

I really have to agree with you We admire other countries that have much better outcomes than our but perhaps they give less choice on compliance To use public transport you have to wear a mask with very few exceptions

But @Parker231 I'm a murderous breathing person I have rights. I also have germ ridden kids who are going to murder you all by brushing past you.

Watch out, you might see me on the tube if I wink you'll catch it from me.

@Scotinengland76

Yeah, I won’t use tissues either for the same reason... I figure because it doesn’t protect me from others’ germs and viruses as well as a perfectly fitted medical-grade mask, there’s no point in even trying to stop my germs and viruses spewing out onto others. I’m also more likely to touch my face if it try to cover it when i sneeze or cough, so i don’t! If others don’t like it? Don’t care... I’m sociopathic so the thought of me passing on the virus to others who may be vulnerable doesn’t bother me.

Besides, months ago, when Covid had only been known of for a matter of weeks, masks weren’t advised by some. And my motto is, always accept the first piece of medical advice you get on something as they never find out anything they didn’t know immediately. Apparently they no longer think drinking Mercury is a good thing for keeping regular.... I still drink it though because clearly the earlier the advice is given, the more right it must be.

Dad* yep agree. Moan why are we worse than Germany / SK. Moan not wearing a face mask.

Walk then fine.

You sound quite defensive Bullet, try not to take things personally.

@bulletjournalbilly

Ironically, it’s those people like you that won’t wear face coverings because “they’ve got rights” that are the ones people will think are dirty dogs... and others in all many the counties of the world that just get on with taking simple public health advice like wearing a face covering will think we’re mad dogs for insisting of keeping infection levels high for the sake of refusing to wear a simple face covering in limited situations.

And now these unforgiveable fknuggets have ruled that face coverings are to be mandatory on public transport. So shortly they'll be mandatory in all settings, and the transformation of Britain into another nation of fear will be complete. All part of the project to convince us that we should stay cowed and not question their grotesque overreach. fk 'em. I am so tired of this idiotic health theatre and the pandering to the Hysterical jumped up little Hitlers inventing laws overnight that criminalise any behaviour they fancy. There's no longer even a pretence of being led by the science; this is just their way to lay the ground to unwind their equally idiotic antisocial distancing policy so that people can actually use public transport. And to placate the unions, rather than just rounding up all the union leaders in a field and breathing on them from less than two metres away until they die of fear.

And all the while deaths outside care homes trend to zero. Of course there are deaths in care homes. It's what fking care homes are for. If we actually cared about our old people we wouldn't warehouse them in value-engineered quasi-prisons until they have the decency to pop off. We didn't care in 2018. So why are we pretending that we care now?

The staggering thing is that thousands of Brits are prepared to rise up in protest at the behaviour of someone else's police force 5,000 miles away, but do sweet fk all when their own government makes houseguests illegal.

I don't think there has ever been a time in history when the entire world has lost its collective mind so thoroughly and for so long. The blame lies with social media and the astonishing percentage of people who for some inexplicable reason think it's a reliable source of information rather than just village gossip writ large. People now believe the crap they read on Facefk and ttter more than the evidence of their own eyes. Based on the public's reaction, you'd think we had unburied bodies piling up on street corners, and barrows going past with men crying out "bring out yer dead". But I still don't have a personal connection to anyone under 80 who's died. In my entire personal extended network there is one person I can name who's been hospitalised with Covid during the whole pandemic. And most of the over-80s I know or know of who've died recently didn't die of Covid. (Mostly cancer, as it happens, and of course that's a whole 'nother story).

I wonder how long they'll be able to milk it after the deaths caused by Covid have gone to zero? How long will we carry on counting "deaths with Covid19 appearing on the death certificate" bearing in mind this requires neither a positive test nor a doctor actually seeing the patient at any point? How long will they carry on bleating like Chicken Little about a second wave, even after no-one's getting ill?

Anyone want to bet that the "temporary" Coronavirus Regulations will still be in force next year, in five years, in ten years - like speed limits, that other "temporary experiment"? Anyone want to start a sweepstakes on how long it is before we lockdown again because someone in Guangzhou gets a sniffle? Because next time Britain won't want to be last to the party, will it? Do you see Shapps, or Patel, or that egregious Khan giving up the power they now have? Do you see Boris growing a backbone any time soon after his brush with death. I don't.