If you know someone who has died with Covid-19...

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What was their circumstance? I'm curious to see what the "real" picture looks like.

I know of two people:

1. My friends father who was in his mid-70s but in ailing health and my understanding is he had more than one underlying health condition. He probably had another 5 years in him though.

1. My friends grandmother who contracted it in her care home. No underlying health conditions, but she was 99.

Back in late March/early April, when MN was full of threads about terrible bad people breaking lockdown -- some of us were saying most of the transmission was actually in hospitals & care homes, not from community socialising & parks. So we're not surprised.

It will all be part of the giant Public Inquiry to come. That Inquiry will be even more tedious than Brexit, eventually. I wonder if all health care staff in future will wear lots of PPE forever more. Coz if you can pass covid then you could pass flu or noro. Why would any of that be acceptable. I wonder how unpleasant that will feel or if we will look back to days before every health professional wore full PPE for every patient contact as highly stupidly dangerous ignorant practices (except ppl like me who will regard the future new normal as quite horrible precisely because it involves treating everyone else like a biohazard).

Sleeper, anyone?

My lovely friend, age 31. She had no known medical problems apart from being overweight. BMI was, I'd say, around late 20s and she was from a BAME background

I know of two, but only know the general health condition of one. Friend's dad, early 70s, terminal cancer, was given three months earlier this year, made it to almost three months when he caught covid and died.

@Jennyie1

I'm sorry for the loss of your Dad. I think your post accurately portrays the difficulty of accurately reflecting the true cause of death.

So many people are outraged by the numbers here but anyone testing +ve has it on their death certificate regardless of the true cause of death. IMO this is artificially inflating the figures somewhat but that's how it is recorded here, I think so that there can be no accusation of concealing anything.

In the case of my FIL and Mum, Covid was the final straw but they both had incredibly fragile health. My FIL could not withstand the rigours of being ventilated (this comes with lots of drugs and trauma to the body). It's been an incredibly sad time but I can't apportion blame anywhere. Every single person we dealt with in hospital, care home and community was trying to do their level best to do the right thing.

Local GP aged 59. He had underlying heart disease.

I know of 2 Covid related deaths by suicide. Not Covid but the effect of the lockdown - happened end of April/beginning of May. Both were living alone.

I don't know of anyone who died of Covid directly though.

@Thingybob yes!! Can't believe the number of inpatients who were otherwise well, contracting the virus in hospital. Makes me sick 🤢

Very sad to hear about posters own mothers and fathers dying. So tragic and sad

A couple in my village in their 70s, the husband had COPD but his wife had no known health conditions.

A man in my village who I had been friends with for 20+ years. Aged 60 but had an amputation a year earlier which kept getting infected and needing further surgery. He was frail and had aged 10 years and lost a lot of weight in the past year making him vulnerable.

I'll add that my ex MIL may well die as a direct result of lockdown. She has gone from being fit and active to suicidally depressed and the anorexia she has struggled with her whole life has came back. They eventually had a MH assessment last week and is now getting some MH support but who knows if she will make it.

Bumbling the point about underlying health conditions isn't being made to reassure people. It's being made because it's a fact. When people say 'no known health problems', the likelihood is that for many there were, but just not yet diagnosed. That's why we shouldn't be 'surprised' when supposed fit and healthy people die. Because many actually weren't. Truly fit and healthy people are probably at lower risk than we think.

Sorry to all who have lost a loved one recently. Incredibly difficult during lockdown.

I don't even know of a single person with a positive test, let alone anyone who has died from it. In the region in which I live (Scotland semi-rural) numbers are incredibly low as a percentage of the population.

My husbands grandfather in his 90's, not unexpected as he was quite frail over the last few years. He was at home with his wife, he just went to bed. He struggled to breathe for a few days before hand.

I knew, in a work capacity, one of the first NHS consultants to have died. He was young (50's) and seemingly fit and healthy. Very well respected, valued & missed member of the trust. Suspected also to have potentially caught it in the hospital treating patients.

@cptartapp
When people say 'no known health problems', the likelihood is that for many there were, but just not yet diagnosed

But it isnt a fact that is that useful or relevant . 'No known health conditions' is accurate . Saying that they were likely to have had an unknown underlying condition is neither a fact ( since the definition of unknown condition is that we don't KNOW they have it ) nor is it helpful in assessing risk so it is a useless statement . If the person turns out to have a health condition. Then it is a known one so that is a fact.
Constantly going on about the number.of.people.who have unknown health conditions may be a fact but it is not a useful one when talking about covid and the risk to life.

A friend's grandma - in her 90s, with dementia, caught it in her care home.

I don't even know of a single person with a positive test, let alone anyone who has died from it. In the region in which I live (Scotland semi-rural) numbers are incredibly low as a percentage of the population

Same here. Aside frim the grandma mentioned above, but that friend lives in London.

I do however know of 2 young men who took their own lives in the past fortnight

A friends grandmother who was in her 80s in a care home tbh I'm not sure of any underlying health conditions.

My uncle, in his 80s. Had dementia and was in a care home. Also a family friend, also in their 80s with dementia in a care home.

Best friends Grandad: 72yo overweight ex smoker who gave up 5 years ago. Relatively healthy apart from weight.

Colleague's dad. 63yo school bus driver who was working only 8 days before he died.

Friend's Nan: 88yo dementia suffered in a care home.

My 90 year old great uncle. He also had COPD and dementia. He was at home, got rushed into hospital after a fall and contracted covid there. He died on a covid ward.

I work in a hospital. Too many to say but lost a 41 year old colleague yesterday. Only underlying issues were anxiety. Heartbreaking

@OP Very sad about so many contracting it in the hospital after having gone in for other things. I had no idea this was a thing! That's bloody awful!

It is a thing - many elderly people go into hospital having had a fall (so broken leg / hip) and then die of "hospital acquired infections" (ie not the thing they went in for...) for example pneumonia / MRSA / UTI. Sadly, very sadly, right now it's covid19 which tops the list of the "secondary" or HAI.

do however know of 2 young men who took their own lives in the past fortnight

That's awful I wonder how the suicide rates will be affected. They are already disturbingly high.

I wonder how the suicide rates will be affected. They are already disturbingly high

I think they're only going to increase . People can't access support formally or informally because of lockdown, things like job loss can cause people's MH to spiral, services will be cut...