If you know someone who has died with Covid-19...

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What was their circumstance? I'm curious to see what the "real" picture looks like.

I know of two people:

1. My friends father who was in his mid-70s but in ailing health and my understanding is he had more than one underlying health condition. He probably had another 5 years in him though.

1. My friends grandmother who contracted it in her care home. No underlying health conditions, but she was 99.

My daughter's friend. A lady aged 50 who hot desked with her in a very large call centre. They closed that very day and everyone is still working from home unless they absolutely can't. DD says her return to work will be September at the earliest.

Colleague late 50’s. Overweight & a smoker.

Friends gran who was 86 & in hospital for something else (hip I think).

70s healthy lady with no known underlying conditions. Last time I talked to her she was telling me how they planned to shield as her husband had underlying condition. I dont understand what happened.

70s male with history of heart disease. He died before lockdown even started. It shocked everyone that knew him into isolating earlier.

dd's friend's dad. He was early 50's, just slightly overweight and otherwise healthy

I looked at the table that someone posted, which gave deaths between 25 - 44 as 348.

I then counted around 11 posts already in this thread about people in that age range that people know.

That seems like lot of people out of all of the 66 million in the this country being on this exact thread and knowing one of that 348?

A relative in her 80’s was being cared for by her son who visited every day, he had a stroke in January and was unable to visit, carers took over her care at the end of January visiting morning and evening. she died in hospital after testing positive in April from Covid.

Well here is friend's FB post about his sister age 43 passing away NathanNathan.

I'm afraid I can't get a certified copy of her death certificate for you

Early twenties, but very significantly disabled and unwell.

Most of us are under 60yo so (homophily) most the people we personally know will also be under 60yo.

I'm mid 50s... I don't know anyone who's even had COVID much less died with it.

2 people I know, they know someone who died with covid. One deceased person was 89 yo, was extended inpatient after a bad fall when he got it. Other person I don't know anything except they were at least 60yo. Maybe age 70+.

Giant I randomly checked DH BP one day whilst clearing out my car. 40's, not overweight, great diet, runs 10k, 'fit and well'. Actually his BP was sky high, and after further tests so is his cholesterol and he's now on medication for both. Left untreated this leads to heart disease. Often no symptoms. There are thousands like him. Millions. Who have no clue they do actually do have health conditions.

Everyone in their 80s and 90s have underlying conditions. It's old age, literally every cell in their body is working poorly.

In our local ICU those who required ventilation 61% mortality rate, those who just had cpap 50% mortality.

@nathannathan, yes some of these posts are genuine sad losses and some are bullshit. Mumsnet is no better than the rest of the Internet

@NathanNathan - totally agree. The numbers just don't add up. Also a lot of the number you quoted had underlying conditions. The people who they 'knew' on here are always fit and healthy marathon running astronauts.

The underlying common denominator for many of the posts in this thread is hospital aquired infections. I can understand why the government are down playing this but maybe the public should be made aware of the full facts?

Of the 5 people I know who have had it, all recovered (including one with serious health issues age 65 and one in her 80s), 3 of the 5 caught it in hospital.

I think when some people have listed the sad losses, they’re talking about people they’ve heard about, rather than saying they know the tragic losses of younger people.

Of people I actually know to talk to, as opposed to people I’ve heard of:

• one colleague in his mid 50s, somewhat overweight but seemed fit and healthy at work, no idea what her he had underlying health conditions;
• recently retired colleague in her early 60s, really quite overweight, again I don’t know her underlying health.

Is it that improbable that across several million MN users, there’s someone here who knows each of the younger people who died? Especially given that the title specifically calls for people who know someone who died?

I ‘know’ (as in recognize a name from work or schools) some thousands of people. Two have died of CV.

But nathannathan the thread is not about people who have lost a family member. Lots of the examples are someone's neighbours cousin - news like this spreads in networks very quickly (particularly due to social media).

It's also easy to dismiss those with underlying conditions as at death's door when that simply isn't necessarily the case. I know a 76 year old with terminal lung cancer due to asbestosis however he's been told there's no reason he shouldn't live at least another 5 years yet if he caught covid now he would just be another elderly person with underlying conditions.

The two I know: a friend’s sister, so a familiar name lifelong and a shock to hear, as she was fit and well. And a teacher at our local school, lovely man who will be much missed. So neither are relatives, but well known to us nonetheless.

I’m sorry for everyone’s losses but I don’t understand the point of this thread. How can it give the ‘real picture’? You don’t have the full context for any of the anecdotes, it is skewed to the demographic of MN, and how is everyone such an expert on the underlying health conditions of the deceased?

@NathanNathan I agree that numbers don’t add up. I wonder if because the deaths of younger people are more shocking they are discussed more widely, so more people have heard about the same relatively small incidences.

Fil, early 70s, active and independent tho he did have health conditions (2 strokes a few years ago, high bp,copd). Admitted to hospital and tested positive last week in March, did well on oxygen, discharged to a nursing home to recover on 8th April, died on 11th April.

Death certificate states community acquired pneumonia then covid 19 as the swab the coroner did post mortem was negative for C19. Tho he tested positive in hospital.

@cptartapp and @GiantPinesAhem, I'm not really sure what point you are trying to make. Any of us could have an undiagnosed health condition and it wouldn't make our deaths any less tragic.

Is that what you mean, because I can't really understand where you're going with it.