No space at school

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This is outing so have NC.

Our school is a large primary 3 form per year.

They've offered alternate weeks starting from the 8th June for year groups.

We were undecided on sending our DC back.

However we got an email yesterday saying they were at full capacity for key worker and Nursery R, Y1 and Y6 and can't accept anymore children!

Is this allowed?

All schools have done different things. Perhaps due to:

Size of school/space available

Number of children wanting to return

Number of teachers that are either in the very vulnerable group/looking after someone int he very vulnerable grroup or fearful healthy group

The attitude of the head and teachers in the school to want to make things work

What did you think the point of the questionnaire was op? Also the school won’t be open over the summer.

YABVU-you said no, plans were made according to that and now you say you’ve changed your mind? And it’s the schools fault?

With the combination of parents, the government, DfE, LA and health England changing their minds and advice daily it is impossible.

It’s parents like you that are creating enormous problems for school staff and governors. There is only so much space and so many numbers of classrooms and teachers available to be safe-or do you want your child to be at risk and to put others at risk due to lack of social distancing availability?

By over summer do you mean the 6 week holidays?

If schools are open over the summer break and that's a big fat if in neon with arrows pointing at it, only keyworker/vulnerable children will be in.
School staff DO NOT get paid for these 6 weeks so for a start where would extra money come from to pay them? Also rec,1 and 6 are never in usually so why would they be now? If they were in then online working would also have to be provided for the other year groups.

You are not thinking this through!

How did you expect the school to plan to accommodate your child if you didn't tell them you wanted a place?

Am I cross? No
My question was are they allowed to say there are no more spaces.

Yes I'm furloughed so don't need a space.

Also it wasn't about me per se - is the school allowed to say no more space.

I think the bottom line is they should have said (as per the guidelines I've learned from this thread) that they have a limited number of spaces per year group!

You said No.
You. Said. No.
The planning was arranged around those that said yes.
The complex arrangements now in place do not centre around individuals. And they do not have space they can magic up because someone has decided they now want it after refusing it.
Your children not having a place now is down to you. You.
Stop deflecting the blame. Start taking responsibility for your decisions.

Also I said No as I thought I could say yes later if I had to go back to work.

Had I known there was a limit to the numbers I would have said yes.

Seriously?

I don't think what's allowed comes into it atm, schools are offering what they're able, which they may well have to reduce again if many teachers end up self isolating under the contact tracing.

Under normal circumstances you're not "allowed" to pick and choose whether your child goes to school either.

Perhaps numbers were not limited. They asked who would be there and have planned according to those numbers. Such precision is needed they can't be expected to throw the plans out of the window because people change their mind.

I don't think if is poor communication from the school to ask parents a question and work around the answer.

is the school allowed to say no more space.

Yes they are. In fact, they have been told they have to say no more spaces when there aren't.

Bloody ridiculous OP. Entirely your fault for saying NO!!

You're looking for a fight when there isn't one

The school don't need to tell you that they have limited space. It is obvious from watching the news and having moderate intelligence levels that there will be limited space unless your school has built a significant extension and employed double staffing since lockdown

You don't need your hand holding through this - some stuff is obvious

You've said no.

My school is working really hard to accommodate those who said yes. The office staff wouldn't appreciate someone changing their mind at this point.

How could it not be blatantly obvious to you that there would be limited numbers?
Are your children at Hogwarts?
It's the only reason I can think of why you would think rooms can appear out of thin air.

Give me strength.

Missed the part where you told the school, " no I dont require a place." Why are you posting here if you turned down a place?! What is the point?

I'm sure you can work out for yourself why changing your mind might cause problems in the current situation.

Had I known there was a limit to the numbers I would have said yes.

How could you not know though?? It’s glaringly obvious. Especially in a primary school where they have to try and accommodate children from all year groups. There are limited spaces despite many parents declining - how on earth did you ever imagine they could accommodate everyone?

Had I known there was a limit to the numbers I would have said yes.
Do you not watch the news , read newspapers nothing? Nowhere have you heard about bubbles of 15?

*read the guidance

The schools are doing what they can to accommodate but as they would need at least twice as many classrooms for the permitted years as they had before plus classrooms for the Y2-5 keyworker children, they are likely to struggle if the take up is high.

All the "stuff" on MN, in the press etc over the last fortnight has been that loads of people don't want to send their children back but I suspect that as we go through June some of those may change their minds. If schools were told that only X number of children were committing to coming in then they filled their bubbles accordingly. Had more people in Reception then Y6 said they wanted places, schools were likely to have accepted smaller numbers of Y1s as those are the lowest priority on the government list. But if they offer places based on what people tell them, unfortunately it's tough!

I suspect too that if people say they want a place but either don't turn up or go for a couple of days then change their mind, they may be told that their place needs to be given to someone else if there's a waiting list. It's not supposed to be a "dip in and out when you fancy" arrangement.

But you don’t need the place so what’s the problem?

Maybe the OP needs to use some of her DC maths resources

You said No.

School then planned for the exact number who said Yes.

With 0 working days to go you want the school to completely alter all their plans because you changed your mind.