No space at school

[PinkDiamond1]

This is outing so have NC.

Our school is a large primary 3 form per year.

They've offered alternate weeks starting from the 8th June for year groups.

We were undecided on sending our DC back.

However we got an email yesterday saying they were at full capacity for key worker and Nursery R, Y1 and Y6 and can't accept anymore children!

Is this allowed?

And to those posters who keep comparing schools to the NHS. Yes both have had to adapt and be flexible. But in the NHS you don't have the equivalent of parents giving you grief about every decision you make or measure you put in place. You don't have to put up with the world and his wife having an opinion on what you do like we do in education.
The NHS are (rightly) revered whereas it seems teachers are derided frequently.
I also agree with a previous poster who praised bin men and energy providers. But I bet they don't face constant criticism.
We are all trying our best.
Today I have received 4 emails from parents - 2 now do want to come back and 2 don't. Unfortunately they are in different year groups so I can't just exchange the places! It's just not that simple @PinkDiamond1 and @LadyGAgain

@Tearingmyhairout0110 I agree with you again. Some schools are making things unnecessarily grim and draconian.

Macaroni46

then maybe they could make the guidelines clearer, or even talk to the people that are doing and know the job?

I know that its a radical view, but it might be worth a try.

Six new sets of guidelines sent out between 4pm yesterday and 9am this morning!

Piggywaspushed

Is that just for primary or for both primary and secondary?

But safeguarding pfff fuck it

Yep. About sums it up. No concerns whatsoever for looked after children. Or teachers and their children with abusive ex partners. Hi jinks if our heads are photoshopped to pornographic images and passed around the school population (or further) and teachers don’t deserve privacy in their own homes.

What do you expect them to do? If they don’t have the physical space or the staff what else can they do?

Well they’re going to need to come up work something, children need to go back to school, if not now then after summer. My choice would be to abandon this social distancing rubbish which won’t happen in school anyway and get them all back in class

Six new sets of guidelines sent out between 4pm yesterday and 9am this morning! Half term holiday and a weekend, what are you supposed to do with that before Monday.

If it mattered so much, why on earth didn't you say yes in the first instance? She'd have had nothing to moan about, you want to spoil her fun.

SudokuBook

by September, if the government get their way, social distancing will be obsolete.

Unless something happens like we go back to early and we have a second wave.

Unless something happens like we go back to early and we have a second wave.

Hmmm.....no danger of that at the moment......hmmmmm

@1forsorrow that proper made me laugh 😄

Have you abandoned the social distancing rubbish , or do you just want to imperil others?

What does your workplace do sudoku?

fripp a mishmash. Haven't read it all yet!

As usual they aren't knocking themselves out to highlight the alterations.

social distancing rubbish

It's a real shame that the virus hasn't recognised that we're tired of social distancing and therefore conveniently stopped being transmitting between people who are close together, isn't it? It's a bit like it hasn't stopped killing people just because we're bored of lockdown now....

Zoom was deemed unsafe by our LA.
We decided to use it only for adults we knew.
You needed to review your safeguarding policy to cover virtual meetings etc. This was one of the first actions Schools looked at.
Hence the use of virtual teaching depends upon your safeguarding policy.

Before September we will make a decision about what is safe and whether we can or can not expand provision to other groups.
Presently we have not been asked to open over the summer holidays and have no information about September opening.

My friend said the HT said the teachers didn't want people looking into their homes hence not offering zoom.

Click two buttons and you can have a fake background so I doubt that your friend got the right end of the stick.

@LadyGAgain have you explained yet how my DCs school haven't adapted to the situation to you satisfaction?

SudokuBook, social distancing rubbish? Shall all the teachers just put on tinfoil hats, switch off the 5G and maybe attach some leeches for good measure because what do scientists know eh!

Other option is MS teams that's used by a lot of private schools - even if it's 30-45 mins English and 30-45 mins Maths a day?

Teams, video off is reasonable - but doesn't deal with the ending up in a meme concern. Or the getting every child on at once concern with limited laptops and WiFi.

Just on Zoom... yes there are ways to reduce the safeguarding risks but it is most certainly not secure enough to use regularly with all school aged children.

It is definitely less secure than NOT using it.

It remains to be proven or evidenced that live classrooms like Zoom or Teams are more accessible/effective than having eg White Rose maths clips for children to watch, problems for them to complete and and a chat/email function for them to as the teacher for help or for the teacher to feedback as Show my Homework does.

So asking schools to do something that doesn't meet ordinary safeguarding levels that has no demonstrably positive effect on the education that they are providing is bonkers and I wish people would stop acting as though classes via Zoom are some sort of magical thing.

Mistressiggi not the children chatting among themselves on their phones while the teacher is attempting to teach.

@bonsaidragon “Click two buttons and you can have a fake background so I doubt that your friend got the right end of the stick.”

Only if your computer is high enough spec. My Mac (2011) & DH’s Windows laptop (2014) aren’t, so we can’t use fake backgrounds on Zoom at all.

@PinkDiamond1

Other option is MS teams that's used by a lot of private schools - even if it's 30-45 mins English and 30-45 mins Maths a day?

Microsoft Teams for schools comes when they already have a subscription for Office 365. This is about £6.00 per student per month. In a school my size, that’s about 9k per month from the school budget. School budgets are set prior to the school year in September. Plenty of schools would not have been able to afford this and obviously pandemics were not high on their risk assessments back then. They may have had high SEND costs to pay for instead, for example or fixing building repairs etc. Other schools yes, would have decided to focus their budget on IT in that way. Private schools for example.

So it’s not always that easy to just say ‘here is Microsoft Teams-Go’’

And I’ll say two things again from many of the other threads on this issue:

1. My DH is a teacher in a well known private school and they have not used live video lessons during this time. Generalisations don’t help anyone.

1. We did survey our parents in my school of about 1600+ and the overwhelming response was not to do live video lessons because they did not want the pressure of a set timetable, many did not have tech or bandwidth available at set times and liked the fact their children could do work in the evenings and the weekend and also, we had feedback that they appreciated alternative work set via email so they did not have to download anything or watch anything and could just get on with pen and paper. Do these parents’ views not count?

Ultimately, I would always advise to contact your own school and communicate with them. You may find out you have missed something or they can adapt to help you. Win win.

[quote TeaStory]@bonsaidragon “Click two buttons and you can have a fake background so I doubt that your friend got the right end of the stick.”

Only if your computer is high enough spec. My Mac (2011) & DH’s Windows laptop (2014) aren’t, so we can’t use fake backgrounds on Zoom at all.[/quote]
Ah. You need the earlier version - hang a sheet from the ceiling behind you