412 new cases today !!

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Yesterday it was 187(I think) today 412
Where are this deaths?
Do you know if anybody that as died from it?
As I don’t

It would be interesting to know

The theory is that it is down to vitamin D. The ability of those with more melanin to produce VitD in countries at this latitude is much harder.

Certainly Vit D will end up being a big factor, but I doubt that's the whole story:

• Some South Asian heritage communities don't seem to be following lockdown strictly.
• Lots of black and south asian heritage people work in health care.
• Non-white people are (on average) poorer in the UK which will correlate with other risk factors.
• Non-white people substantially tend towards living in urban centers which have been much worse hit. I suspect this may end up being the biggest single factor.

But are cases really decreasing?
I hope they are but there's no confirmed cases without tests. I've been wondering how many tests are being done at present.
The BBC article linked up thread notes it's not known.
The actual number of people tested in recent days is not known, with the government citing "technical difficulties" with data collection

It's not 'panic scaring'. Indeed it's the desperation to minimalise that got us to having one of the highest death rates in the world. If, and I say if, cases are increasing we need to acknowledge that - and perhaps this time round do something about it to mitigate the damage. Like all those other countries have done.

After 9 weeks of somewhat light touch restrictions, its not surprise our death/infection is falling BUT its declining very slowly.

Countries opening tourism are not allowing UK visitors because we are seen as high risk, like Brazil, Russia and USA.... but we all still all Back Boris :(

Deaths in community and care homes are higher than deaths in hospitals, the decision to chuck everyone out of Hospitals and not let CV patients in unless very ill, wasn't a great idea, its just spread CV around.

I can’t believe some of you have not been touched by Coronavirus at all. I know lots of people who have had it. I’d say about 20, including my own family although not officially tested.

We lost a family member last week. It’s awful all round.

Some South Asian heritage communities don't seem to be following lockdown strictly.

It's not these communities primarily that are packing out the parks and beaches etc.

@MockersxxxxxxxSocialDistancing we are not the worst at all. Belgium for example have taken a beating but because they have a small population their death numbers aren't high.

If you look at the trend across Tuesdays, it is lower than last Tuesday.

What is depressing as hell is that every other country in the world has a handle on this except us. Oh and USA . We know we need to test, trace and isolate. The fact we know we aren't even getting the correct figures from the government on COVID related deaths or tests that have actually been carried out is really food for thought in the 21st C when even supposed 3rd world countries are managing.

@A1Langdownthecleghole well said!

www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/05/COVID-19-total-announced-deaths-27-May-2020.xlsx

Yet deaths in English hospitals have fallen to under 100 a day, 25 recorded yesterday.

No I don’t know anyone who has been ill with it or tested positive for it. A few people I know have been tested randomly by the Govt so it will be interesting to see what the results are.

It’s not new cases or deaths today. It’s deaths reported by the various trusts for the last 24 hours. Very very few of them will have been yesterday. They will be up to a month ago.

Testing, post mortems, family permissions etc is what takes the time.

What was reported today has no bearing on how many people sadly died yesterday.

Uncle in nursing home had a positive swab test and is sadly now on end of life care. 2 work colleagues have had positive swab tests (we've been working at home for 9 weeks). SIL hospitalised with it and thankfully now recovering at home.

Op you can google that information.

I can’t believe some of you have not been touched by Coronavirus at all. I know lots of people who have had it

I know several - all confirmed cases, but the very worst one (diabetic and in his late 60s) had 2 days of bed rest and felt a bit wiped out the a week. 3 of them said it was akin to a cold and if they hadn't known it was covid they said they would have gone to work, and 2 had no symptoms at all.

Yes, from my daughter’s school friends, one has lost her father and another her uncle. Plus the father of a boy she was at primary school with - who had three young children. Heartbreaking.

I cant count how many people I know who have had it. I've just had a quick add up in my head and can count 11 patients who have died.
And 2 colleagues.
And a neighbour in their 20s, only "higher risk" factor is that they were from BAME background.
Are you suggesting this is made up OP??

On a slight tangent, I really hope that all the research that is being done, wrt bame people will also get to grips with why bame people are more likely to suffer with hypertension, kidney disease and diabetes etc. as we go forward.

I dont know anyone who has caught it here. Central Scotland.

I personally know 2 people who have died from it. I have witnessed many more professionally as I am working in a Covid + bed base.

* Some South Asian heritage communities don't seem to be following lockdown strictly

It's not these communities primarily that are packing out the parks and beaches etc.**

It’s these communities at the beach today and other days, day tripping to the coast, set up under their gazebos, big family party/friends in groups of approx 25.

@JeSuisPoulet

What is depressing as hell is that every other country in the world has a handle on this except us. Oh and USA . We know we need to test, trace and isolate. The fact we know we aren't even getting the correct figures from the government on COVID related deaths or tests that have actually been carried out is really food for thought in the 21st C when even supposed 3rd world countries are managing.

We have 'got a handle on it'. As for 3rd world countries 'managing', go and tell them that in Mumbai www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-52798740

It’s these communities at the beach today and other days, day tripping to the coast, set up under their gazebos, big family party/friends in groups of approx 25.

That's exactly the sort of thing the police need to deal with. Most pictures of packed out beaches are predominantly white though.

I don’t know anyone that’s had it or died of it. North west.

If you watch the daily briefings you will see where most of the deaths are (they show charts), I’m in the SW which has the lowest amount of cases, I only know 2 people that have died of covid and they were parents of friends, people who were elderly with underlying conditions.

The numbers were higher today as f the catch up of registered deaths the bank holiday, it will come down a little in the next day or 2 but I wouldn’t be surprised if it goes back up in a few weeks after seeing how people are behaving.