We can go on Holiday abroad from July 1st???

[Teacher12345]

DH says he has read this on a local paper this evening. I am trying to find things and it does say July but not neccessarily the 1st. We have a holiday booked to Spain on the 2nd and we really don't want to go!
Its our first in years and the kids are only 7 & 4. It won't be the holiday we wanted for them at all.
Has anyone else read this today?

@Teacher12345

I think you have to be prepared to lose the money if you choose not to go. Shit as it is you have given plenty reason why you shouldn't go. Yes you lose money but you will not spend anything further on what would ultimately be a crap holiday.

Aircraft air isn't actually recycled. Well some of it is but its HEPA filtered and the other 50 percent is fresh. That said I'm not comfortable either and now I'm in the same situation as you OP. We didn't book a package. Flights and Villa. The agency have been fantastic and we can probably move it but the flights may well be reinstated

We have tickets to NY in August and I am hoping the airline goes under so I can claim the money back, as there's no way we'll be going even if they flights are going given that America's about the only place in as much of a mess as here.

DH would like to go if at all possible, but I reckon it's likely our travel insurance might now have a condition that they are not gonna pay out if you end up hooked up to a ventilator at 1000s of dollars a day if you travel to the US now. Even aside of that, I don't think anything we'd want to see would be open/safe and it's too close to the start of term to quarantine when arriving home.

Whilst I know a lot of companies are allowing people to transfer dates, it's not something I would want to do. Who knows what personal circumstances will be next year! Will you be able to cancel it if you can't go next year? We tend not to be able to plan our holidays that far in advance due to trying to work around other colleagues.

Nasal spray- accepting it, doesn’t make it easier to swallow. We have spent a whole year paying off this holiday. It’s the first year in 4 we have been able to afford it, and now it is gone 😔. At least if we had the money back we could rebook for next year. The hotel have made it clear that if we choose not to go, we will loose the money.
Our only hope is the FCO.

I did see that tui offer but we are restricted on choices because of our sons disability. The same hiday in 2021 is 2000 dearer. Ridiculous really. We would like a refund as we have paid 3500 already.
If you have to go u r not getting the holiday you paid for if kids clubs activities etc are no longer available?

At any rate, I think holidaying abroad this summer is A Bad Idea.

Echo wow! I can't believe what i've just read. I would never wish that on any company or any poor employee.

Any who, I am off to bed. Thank you for the replies. Glad to know I’m not the only one who wouldn’t be flying in four weeks time. I’m still clinging to the argument that the government wouldn’t allow us to go abroad before allowing us to do basic things like access gyms and salons in England. That said, the whole thing has been a shower of shite so who knows!

Can't get over the posters suggesting it's ok to go if Spain has fewer cases or is further along the curve than UK or if you could somehow manage to avoid the aeroplane. So it doesn't matter then if you risk carrying infection from here to there?

Thats the decision of the Spanish Gov. and was one based entirely on economics.

It's taking a month to get a passport without paying emergency fees. I think people are being ridiculous about this, tbh. It's not Ebola virus and people are wearing masks on flights. It's a short flight. They're not going to cancel it because they don't want to refund you so I guess you have money to burn.

It's not Ebola virus : that's the second time I have read this tripe recently. It is a pandemic, more widespread and easier to catch than Ebola.

I’m still clinging to the argument that the government wouldn’t allow us to go abroad before allowing us to do basic things like access gyms and salons in England.

They've never not 'allowed' people to go abroad this entire time .

It's not tripe. It's not nearly as lethal as Ebola, but go on living your life in abject terror, just don't expect to get a refund for everything.

Ebola death rate is approx 50%

Get a grip

@Teacher12345, the page in the link at the end of this paragraph from the gov website gives the current travel advice and restrictions. It is true that Spain has announced they will allow people to enter Spain and not quarantine from 1 July but as others have said the current official government advice is for UK citizens to not travel abroad and from 8 June people entering the UK including returning holiday makers will need to self isolate at home for 2 weeks. Obviously as the weeks progress this might change. www.gov.uk/guidance/travel-advice-novel-coronavirus

The section on the rules changing for entering or returning to the UK:
“From 8 June, there will be new rules for entering or returning to the UK. You will:

need to provide your journey and contact details when you travel to the UK

not be allowed to leave the place you’re staying for the first 14 days you’re in the UK except in very limited situations (known as ‘self-isolating’)

If you are planning to arrive back in the UK on or after 8 June, you must read the guidance on entering the UK from 8 June.”

Sorry OP I didn’t read through the thread and see you know most of the info I wrote above.

The 14 days on return shouldn't be too much of an issue as you've got the exceptional circumstance of having a 4 year old which means you can drive to test your eyesight, visit castles, second homes, woods etc during your self-isolation

Oh .. there are exceptional circumstances ... of course

No for you plebs though. You keep cowering at home. No holidays for you.

Come in very close bodily contact with someone with Ebola recently hardsell?

Thats the decision of the Spanish Gov. and was one based entirely on economics.

So individuals have no moral responsibilities at all? It doesn't matter if you infect someone and maybe cause deaths as long as nobody tries to stop you? The only thing that matters is if the journey poses a risk to you yourself?

I think the travel industry has people over a barrel cory. They are kind of forcing people to weigh up those kinds of decisions by refusing refunds and spouting 'open for business' type rhetoric.

All the messaging of this whole thing has moved from protect others to think only of yourself (and maybe your family) ...

The only thing that matters is if the journey poses a risk to you yourself?

Personally I am not going to travel but that has more to do with safeguarding myself than others.
UK visitors have visited Ireland since March. The Irish Gov. didn't stop travel but did say that tourism must be stopped. The UK visitors ignored them and travelled nonetheless. The locals in the tourist areas are not happy at all, to the extent that they put signs in local areas asking them to go home, which were ignored.
Now the Spanish Gov are actually sending invitations to Europe to holiday there. If they ignored Ireland, do you really think they will forfeit their Spanish holiday? The UK don't seem to have any moral responsibility and if they have any, it has far less meaning and weight than economics. Read the hundreds of threads on MN advising that the country needs to open again/let CV rip through the country taking with it who it will as long as business and economics survive.

So yes, the onus will be on the Spanish Gov to say not to travel. UK visitors will do whatever they wish to do regardless.

sitting stop blaming the UK for everything and question your own government.

Its the ROI government who can control who comes into the ROI.

Lots of Irish thought it was OK to come over for Cheltenham. The UK govt said it was OK so they still did it. The majority of the British people didn't want Cheltenham to go ahead.

How is this different, taking your obvious hatred for the UK out of the equation.

@highmarkingsnowbile it isn’t taking a month to get a passport at all? You can’t even apply for one at the moment so please can you tell me where you have seen a month?
We were due to go on holiday in august, applied for passports in March and are still waiting as it is only emergency passports currently being processed! I have had to cancel my holiday as there is no way we can get passports. So unless the passport agency were lying to me please tell me where you have got a month from?

@gingajewel I applied for my passport renewal a week ago online. It processed okay and I've sent my old passport back and they've confirmed receipt.