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Dominic Cummings using his child's autism as an excuse

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Almahart · 25/05/2020 04:01

So it looks as if the next excuse to be wheeled out is that Dominic Cumming's child is autistic.

My child is autistic. I know many families with autistic children.

This is what I have heard of happening for these families during Coronavirus:

  • no school (yes I know schools should be taking vulnerable children. But many are not)
  • no respite
  • no transport to school even if they are open
  • regular activities cancelled
  • the fear that provision provided by local authorities through Education Health and Care Plans and suspended under the Coronavirus Act will slowly disappear

I know of many single parents alone with their child who are seriously struggling and who did not break the rules during lockdown.

To use autism as an excuse is beyond low. It is revolting and has made me even angrier than I was before

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Sertchgi123 · 25/05/2020 08:14

You’ve been brainwashed by the journalists! @HarrietM87

okiedokieme · 25/05/2020 08:14

Dd is autistic (adult) I did drive across the country to check on her, during the full lockdown it was legal for care reasons. (I had other reasons but would be outing, I checked with the police)

Almahart · 25/05/2020 08:16

No official statement or coverage but it's clearly been put out to see how it will fly. It's all over Twitter.

I try my very best not to judge other parents choices, having been judged many times myself be people with kids who don't have asd. I think I'm pretty good at it.

I am judging the architect of this government's policies braking the very first rule - if you have symptoms of Coronavirus then you stay at home. We all knew that and we all did that.

To try to get some sympathy by wheeling this out now is revolting a) from a government that gives no shits about the struggles of families with disabilities or SEN b) because it tramples all over the child's right to privacy. I've no idea of the nature of his autism but everyone he meets will now know it whether he chooses to disclose it or not, right into adulthood.

It's absolutely disgusting behaviour.

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Almahart · 25/05/2020 08:18

Gah breaking not braking Hmm

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HarrietM87 · 25/05/2020 08:18

What @Sertchgi123...brainwashed into forgetting about how he ran for public office and was elected as...oh sorry. The brainwashing has obviously worked so well.

Please explain how Dominic Cummings is a “politician” and how he didn’t actually break his own rules?

DateLoaf · 25/05/2020 08:18

This tangled web is no way resolved by a private chat with Boris whatever Boris wants us to think. His wife’s article about Cummings being ‘doggo’ now seems a bit too conveniently sparse on detail while seeking to establish on the record that Cummings was very ill. It’s undermined public trust to have that high handed ‘I am satisfied so that’s all you need to know’ statement from Boris.
It’s not safe or democratic to have apparently untouchable people running the country nor is it healthy for the country or this government to have even the perception of that being true allowed to linger.

Aridane · 25/05/2020 08:18

@okiedokieme

Caring for a vulnerable person has always been highlighted s an acceptable reason to leave home

HarrietM87 · 25/05/2020 08:19

Not if you’ve got the virus yourself @Aridane. If you or a member of your household have it you’re supposed to self isolate. Couldn’t be more clear.

Cam77 · 25/05/2020 08:21

Does Cummings have Johnson by the balls, or is Johnson really just that weak that he can only govern with this particular special advisor at his shoulders - even if it means losing the trust of the country at an absolute critical time in its recent history - even if it means endangering the safety of millions of elderly and vulnerable as respect for lockdown and government rules goes up in smoke?
Me? I just think Johnson is weak and entitled and entirely unsuited for high office. He is Trump without the backbone and a sprinkling off highschool Latin. Like or loathe his politics, Corbyn would have been a stronger leader by far, I've absolutely no doubt of that now. Though clearly Johnson is the weakest and most inept leader in this country's history, so the bar isnt high.

MadameMarie · 25/05/2020 08:25

I am not a fan of Cummings but what other reason could there have been for this move of location other than the care of his child

Why did hordes of Londoners sod off to their second homes in the sticks when lockdown was imminent?

Cam77 · 25/05/2020 08:26

I didn't like Bojo before this. Sort of was relieved it was him rather than JC when this shitshow started.

Then you're an idiot. Nobody could have handled this worse than the British government, given what it had in its favour at the outset as a rich, island nation, thousands of miles away from the centre of the outbreak. Corbyn is not the brightest man in the commons, but he its a sensible one and a caring one. He would have deferred to the likes of Starmer, Miliband, Burnham etc, taken things cautiously, and we'd have been (comparatively) fine.

Everytimeref · 25/05/2020 08:26

If the wife has symptoms and he didn't why didn't he just take the child himself. Left him with the sister and returned to London. Still breaking the rules and opening up the sister family to exposure but the public would have accepted that situation.
To move to a second home to self isolated was against the rules.

Sertchgi123 · 25/05/2020 08:26

The journalists are shit stirrers. At the briefing yesterday, all they kept on about was fucking DC.

As a member of the public, I want to know what’s happening with the vaccine? Who will get the vaccine? what evidence are they using to say which children should go back to school? Is the virus weakening? And other more pressing questions.

I really don’t see how banging on about DC is helping, especially when I can see with my own eyes many people carrying on as normal with their fucking visitors, BBQs, gatherings, etc.

twinnywinny14 · 25/05/2020 08:27

@Sertchgi123 so are you saying DC didn’t break the rules? What’s your stance on this?

Cam77 · 25/05/2020 08:30

I hope everyone remembers this and Boris’s defence of him when it comes to the next election.

Nah, a few weeks before the election the mass media will tell us how Starmer's uncle/ 2nd cousin etc with whom he was "really close" was part of a Marxist group at university and Starmer will surely block the great economic recovery that is "just around the corner". And that'll be that.

MadameMarie · 25/05/2020 08:31

I really don’t see how banging on about DC is helping

The complete opposite. It's led selfish people to think they can be just as selfish.

Gfplux · 25/05/2020 08:31

This is a “worth reading even if it is long” recap of the Cummings story by Politicians.eu’s daily email.
If you get the free daily email there are many links to additional parts of the story.
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SO IT’S ONE RULE FOR THEM? Boris Johnson will chair a tense bank holiday Cabinet meeting this morning with the Tory Party in a state of near-mutiny over his decision to stand by lockdown-flouting aide Dominic Cummings. The prime minister will gather his senior ministers via Zoom to agree a further tweaking of lockdown restrictions in the coming weeks, with Johnson planning to update the nation — and, he hopes, change the narrative — at another must-see press conference tonight. The PM’s most senior aides have canceled planned leave and flooded what was a pretty empty half-term news grid with attention-grabbing lockdown stories, starting with last night’s rushed-out announcement on schools. But trouble is still bubbling up from below, with Tory MPs from every wing of the party reporting abject rage from their constituents — and letting their whips know in no uncertain terms. This is not going away anytime soon.

Quick recap: Multiple conversations with Tory MPs and ministers reveal six key points of concern this morning about Cummings’ actions and the way this episode has been handled by No. 10.

First — the drive to Durham: The central charge is a willingness to ignore what we all thought was clear and unequivocal “stay at home” guidance for symptomatic people, and to have risked spreading the virus at motorway services, petrol stations or anywhere else a family of three traveling 260 miles may have needed to stop along the way. A senior government official last night insisted Cummings had not broken any rules — but refused once again to say whether he stopped off anywhere on the long drive to Durham. You all saw Transport Secretary Grant Shapps fail to answer this same question on TV yesterday. It’s going to be asked again and again.

Second — a day trip to Barnard Castle? The same government official also refused to confirm or deny whether Cummings did indeed make a separate lockdown-flouting 30-mile road trip from Durham to the beauty spot of Barnard Castle on his wife Mary Wakefield’s birthday in mid-April; and again, you all saw Boris Johnson fail to answer this same question on TV last night. Sky News reports this morning that the “distinctive” car number plate noted down by the local man who spotted Cummings at Barnard Castle does indeed match up with “a car Mr Cummings has got into in the past.” The Mirror and the Guardian say a complaint has been filed to the police.

Third — the PR operation: One MP cited the “arrogance” of Spectator journo Mary Wakefield’s decision to publish on April 23 what now looks to have been a pretty misleading version of the Cummings’ family life in lockdown, leaving her employer — a proud Tory institution with 300 years of history under its belt — looking a little daft when the truth came out. (It was notable the Speccie was the first right-leaning publication to publish a furious opinion piece headlined “Why Dominic Cummings must go” after the story broke.) And the knee-jerk reaction on Friday night for “a friend” of Cummings to brief accommodating journos that he “isn’t remotely bothered” by this story went down like a cold cup of sick among almost every Tory MP Playbook has spoken to, given the sensitive context and the serious impact the revelations are having upon party and government alike.

Fourth — the changing story: Equally enraging for Tory MPs has been No. 10’s failure to agree upon a credible story that ties in with what most people understood the lockdown guidance to be; and indeed with the police’s own version of events. The decision to exploit a loophole about exceptional circumstances for people unable to care for vulnerable people looks barely credible on the face of it, given thousands and thousands of parents have been in this exact same position but managed to stay at home, and given Cummings was well enough at the time to drive 260 miles across the country. Crucially, of course, there may be extenuating circumstances here we don’t know about — but if so, No. 10 is point-blank refusing to say. And so the questions continue.

Fifth — the impact on public health: It was pretty jaw-dropping to watch the unfortunate Grant Shapps being asked to effectively rewrite vital public health advice on the hoof as he was given the impossible task of answering journalists’ questions over the weekend. Asked if symptomatic people were now allowed to get in their cars and go and isolate near to their families, Shapps said: “You have to get yourself sort of locked down and do that in the best and most practical way. And that will be different for different people under whatever circumstances their particular family circumstances happen to dictate.” You may not have seen that one on a government poster last month.

Sixth — the damage to the Tory Party: Politically, this is the most worrying charge of all for many Tory MPs, and the one that Keir Starmer is clearly going to be hanging around this government’s neck every week forever more — that it’s “one rule for them, and another for the rest of us.” One rule for a Westminster elite, and another for the rest who are missing their families, worrying about their children, mourning their dead from afar. As Nigel Farage will tell you, this is one of the most potent attack lines in modern politics — and it looks like Cummings has handed it to his opponents on a plate.
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Marnie76 · 25/05/2020 08:32

@Aridane But he didn’t leave home to care for a vulnerable person

Gfplux · 25/05/2020 08:32

Sorry...... Politico.eu

MadameMarie · 25/05/2020 08:33

I hope everyone remembers this and Boris’s defence of him when it comes to the next election.

If Boris is PM in 4 years i'd be amazed. He's too out of his depth and at a time of national crisis.

Hariboandme · 25/05/2020 08:33

According to Boris and section 6-2 (d) of the lockdown regulations he did absolutely nothing wrong.
People can say he's using his sons autism as an excuse, but unless you're in that family you have no idea of the child's needs.

Nonnymum · 25/05/2020 08:35

I can't see why that is an excuse. In fact if it is true its more reason why he should have stayed at home to be cared for and the sister should have travelled to them if (unbelievably) could not ask anyone in London including their London family to help them should they need it.

Settlersofcatan · 25/05/2020 08:37

Didn't he leave home to avoid caring for a vulnerable person?

megletthesecond · 25/05/2020 08:39

Regardless of what challenges his child may bring I still don't have have sympathy for him and his wife. They didn't need to drive to Durham.

Tens of thousands of homes across the country have faced worse, without the nice house and garden and potential support from the governmental team.
I've had a rotten time with my violent DD. I've still stuck it out because I wouldn't want to risk making my family ill.

MeganBacon · 25/05/2020 08:39

The overreaction on these threads is just beyond parody. "Revolting" and "scumbag of the earth" etc. No balance at all.

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