Daily numbers, graphs, analysis thread 9

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Welcome to thread 9 of the daily updates.

Resource links:
Worldometer UK page
Financial Times Daily updates and graphs
HSJ Coronavirus updates
Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Centre
NHS England stats, including breakdown by Hospital Trust
Covidly.com to filter graphs using selected data filters
ONS statistics for CV related deaths outside hospitals, released weekly each Tuesday

Thank you to all contributors for their factual, data driven, and civil discussions.

The UC changes are temporary, although it might prove politically difficult to reverse them.

I believe the benefits freeze was already scheduled to end.

LHA has increased by as much as £650/month.

The LHA increase is not technically temporary as rates are published annually anyway, and there's no end date beyond that of the end of the tax year as normal.

The £1000 bonus to UC/WTC is the one likely to end.

The benefits "freeze" was to end anyway, but that increase was tiny compared to the UC bonus.

The LHA increase is a huge change in policy, so that will be interesting to watch.

Because this all happened at the start of a tax year, it's not entirely clear whether this is a permanent change. It might end up being one, even if that was not intended, which I suspect it wasn't.

Anyway, sorry for going OT.

I think there are an awful lot of people convinced they had covid when they didn't.

Are any numbers for the UK (cases and deaths) being released today?

@RhubarbJelly

Are any numbers for the UK (cases and deaths) being released today?

Yep - 204 deaths, 75 in hospital in England.

Thanks, could not find for some reason.
Interesting to see split between hospital and out of hospital.

I just saw it in passing and then couldn't find it again, otherwise I would have included a link.

This is the daily dashboard -
coronavirus.data.gov.uk/?_ga=2.225225490.906902481.1590861708-394994299.1584106601

More interested in hospital admissions to be honest but I don't think we'll get that now until the Monday release of all the data.

Ditto PatricaHolm, had a look earlier but couldn't find it

Yep - 204 deaths, 75 in hospital in England.

Does that mean the majority are care home deaths?

I'd really like to know where the outbreaks are. In my large town we've had maybe 3 cases in the last week, I'd love to know if the cases are concentrated in places or not and if they are if they are managing to shut down the clusters.

@furforkssake - the 204 is made up of 75 from NHS England deaths in Hospital, 25 from Wales/Scotland/Ireland all settings, and 104 from PHE which is other settings - home and care homes primarily.

But of course you must remember this is data that looks at new deaths as notified to the authorities yesterday, not deaths that happened yesterday.

Im not sure who has lost more.
Getting furloughed even on 80% many would rather be working as risk of job losses losses much more than that 20%.
Savings rates have dropped. (My santander acc has gone down from about 3%)
But food prices have gone up a lot here. We are spending 200 a week maybe because it is now asda rather than lidl but lidl was maybe 70-100!
The main risk for us is i was a sahp but would have been getting back to work but this will be impossible now.
Im not sure how much some companies arevlosing as so many furloughed when not all would have needed to. So they havent paid wages but they still have the stock etc.

Im against the protesting mainly i thimk because the cops have been arrested i dont actually see what this will achieve. Solidarity could have been achieved and change online.

It's rather an alternate reality really not protesting about how the care homes have been sent positive patients. Or that Cheltenham was told to go ahead etc.
Protest for the railway woman spat at or the bus drivers having to work at the startbwith no ppe.

forks spike in Bedford Borough last few days : 400 cases per 100k and 30 cases yesterday.

Never reported because it's not in NW or SW, council seem blithely unaware.

Keep Dh worked out today that we are spending 200 a week. And it was around 100. Pretty much the same shop as before, just we are all in all the time and I wonder if prices have gone up? Obviously not spending elsewhere though in any capacity. Our local food bank ran out of food last week.

I agree nello. I've been following that from the start. It really wasn't properly organised and I do believe there's been a big cover up. It started as pilot schemes in 10 councils around 22nd May. They're going to share best practice hence won't be fully operating till sept.

www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/newcastle-confirmed-pilot-location-test-18298138

The ultimate economic impact will overwhelming be borne by those at least risk of the virus. We are currently in a ‘phoney war’ where government support is keeping jobs on life-support. It is likely that once that support is eased many many people will be unemployed and they will overwhelmingly be the young. It is also disastrous for those graduating from university/school-leavers looking for their first job.

Many may be happy to be furloughed on 80% but not to lose their job.

I don't think there's a coincidence there that Newcastle and Gateshead delayed schools opening to more pupils till the 8th and 15th respectively. They'd have known when track and test locally might actually start to work.

@NeurotrashWarrior Yes, prices have gone up. Not necessarily absolute price rises, but total spend for a couple of reasons:

1. Major grocers have reduced promotions as they struggled to keep shelves filled after the initial panic, plus reduced manpower etc meant focus on other parts of the business
2. Pre-Covid most people shopped in more than one store so could pick each item where was on offer/cheapest. Now people are mainly doing one shop in one place, whatever the price

Yes i agree. I think im probably buying more tinned and frozen food. I think im wasting less though. (Inly doing a shop 2-3 weekly. But yes no deals on bread or milk add up.
There is still so much in and out of stock online anyway
Yeast
Bread flour
Tinned mince
Eggs
Even bin bags

They just arent catching up.

If you block people from doing things legally, they will do them illegally
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-52949930

Free festivals and the Summer of Love told us that

Lots of teens and twenties having gatherings in Bath and Bristol. Wouldn’t be surprised if that led to the Weston hotspot and hospital closure.

My understanding was that the issue in WSM was spread within the hospital itself that created the issue? Not infections in the community.

What appears to have happened in Weston is 5 existing patients on a non-Covid ward tested positive, as did 6% of staff, so the working assumption is they got cross infected in hospital. It has been contained within the hospital and it will start reopening next week.

Weston is a small hospital and presumably will be permanently closed in the long-term anyway. I wouldn't read much into it.