Dominic Cummings travelled from London to Durham to self isolate

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Seen running out of Downing Street
Went to self isolate with his wife in Durham with his parents when he had symptoms
Seems he had his family with him
He stayed with his wife and his parents looked after the children

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52779356

One rule for us, one rule for him

I usually like R4 but I am disgusted with how they have presented this
Did anyone hear his wife on R4 describing how ill they were and how kind a man he is
The aches, the muscle twitches, too ill to drag themselves around. not too ill to drive over 200 miles

His wife's interview said she was ill the day before him. So if, as the BBC claim he fell ill they day after they went, she was still ill when they travelled.

Either way it's still non essential travel.
It's still a symptomatic person mixing with people outside of their household.
They have lied about the whole situation.
People in government knew they were lying and knew where they were.
They have, since this happened, watched whilst two scientific advisors had to resign for less.

People that aren't outraged probably haven't had to watch their relative die alone in hospital over bloody face time have they?

He and his wife self isolated in another house while his parents cared for his 4year old. What is wrong with that?

We all know that symptoms can stay mild or after a few days they can get worse and sometimes hospitalisation is required. I would not want friends to look after my DC if both myself and my dh were positive not knowing if we would deteriorate and it would need to be a long term arrangement.

'He has to go. It's just arrogance' Dominic Cummings facing calls to be sacked after breaching lockdown rules

Lead headline on telegraph website

Judy the comment was about why the Tories got support instead of the opposition, who alienated the people who might ordinarily vote for them. It was a response to the view that only Brexit matters to some people, which I don't think is entirely true.

If he wasn't ill, why did they need childcare

I am surprised that he had no one who could look after their child.

RhondaWentToRhyl because it has always been the case that if you have symptoms of the virus, you must not leave home. And if you don't have symptoms you can only leave home for certain reasons, none of which fit this scenario.

His wife sounds like a complete twit.

Disappointed covid didnt give her the clarity of a near death experience!

And presumably the part about her son bringing them drinks is just a complete fabrication (well let's hope so if the child was also being looked after by cummings' parents.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.spectator.co.uk/article/getting-coronavirus-does-not-bring-clarity/amp

I think maybe this was less about needing childcare and more about wanting it.

It really does fry my brain that people are defending this.

@RhondaWentToRhyl as part of the infected household shouldn't the child have been isolating too? Maybe in a real emergency, where both parents really couldn't care for the child, you'd have to do what was necessary, but they were well enough to travel and his wife has said she wasn't that illl.

@RhondaWentToRhyl have you actually listened to any of the rules in the last 100 days? FFS

I think I will stop paying my licence fee after this.I bet Dominic Cummings doesn't bother getting one.

His known as Scummings from me from now on!
It'll blow over I guess but it's still wrong what he did.

He and his wife self isolated in another house while his parents cared for his 4year old. What is wrong with that?

Nothing really, why would it be a problem to lock a child with two symptomatic adults in the little space of a car and drive 274 miles away to let older vulnerable adults take care of a child they most likely infected on the way there?

And don’t start me on them taking toilet breaks to go to toilets, therefore mixing with other people when they should be self isolating?

Nothing wrong there really, even if we forget about double standards, no...

I don't know why most people are so surprised at this. As the above poster says, we are the plebs, they are above us and the rules don't apply to them. There'll be lots of them sitting there hoping they don't get found out for doing similar things.

The blind, naivety and trust in people in power and so called 'experts' will be the undoing of this country. Please start looking into the facts and doing your own research instead of just accepting 'what's best for you' from people who claim to 'know best.'

I'm so angry this has brought me to tears. I'm a single parent and have had real concerns over what I would do with DD if I got sick. Particularly knowing that if I'm I'll she may will be asymptomatic and therefore a risk to other people.

So not once have I considered asking my parents to look after her. I/we might get quite ill but it could kill them. My Mum is shielding so I'm her medical gopher but my Dad lives quite far away so even though he's healthy I have seen him since February.

If Cummings doesn't care he might kill his own parents he certainly isn't going to care if he kills mine.

I can't get wound up by this.

Dominic Cummings' uncle was in hospital for 3 weeks prior to dying on April 5th as a result of Covid-19.

When Dominic and his wife became ill with Covid-19, they did not know how bad they were going to become. Knowing his uncle was gravely ill probably made them consider what to do if they became incapacitated. They did not know if they would also become ill enough to require hospitalisation. What would have happened to their child under these circumstances?

They travelled to Durham and self- isolated in part of the house so that their young son could be taken care of them in the event of them becoming very ill. I consider that responsible parenting.

DC was very ill with it and should have been hospitalised according to his wife.

Could you imagine what story would be in the press if they'd stayed in London, both been hospitalised, ventilated or even worse? Posters would be slagging DC off for being irresponsible for not sorting out childcare for their young son.

The BBC are actually quoting the guidelines and it doesn't appear they have been broken.

Fair enough, people don't like him but I can't see how this can be compared to Neil Ferguson persuading his mistress to travel to see him for sex or other MPs/Ministers just travelling to their 2nd homes just because they want to. This does appear to be justified.

Posters would be slagging DC off for being irresponsible for not sorting out childcare for their young son

We have social services - plus I am surprised they don't have local support available,

So I don't think people would be saying they were irresponsible.

I think they would feel for them.

*He and his wife self isolated in another house while his parents cared for his 4year old. What is wrong with that?

Lots, especially if that child was infected and being cared for by over 70s. Can't you see that?

Lots, when the rest of us couldn't see our parents, isolated elderly people. Vulnerable parents living miles away, dying on their own in hospital in some cases.

Lots, when there were single working parents being told by Harries and co they couldn't even ask parents to babysit kids. Mothers on here terrified they couldn't ask for help. It's disgraceful the levels of fear this Govt put out.

Lots, when they used services, toikets, pètrol, risked crashing or breaking down.

Lots, when the family of tge teenage boy who died could not attend the funeral.

Lots, when they decided that they were exempt from the rules.

have you been paid to post that NotEverythingIsBlackAndWhite?

He’s got to go for me. The Scottish health minister went to her own home with no symptoms but had to resign (rightly so), this idiot went to someone else’s home, 250 miles away, with symptoms, a clear breach of ‘essential travel only’! The man sprinted out of Downing Street, are we really expected to believe he didn’t come down with symptoms until the following day??

Wow, he must really be unpopular if neither he nor his wife, as well connected as they are, know no one in London who would help out with childcare in the dire situation where they were both on the verge of death. Plus don't they have a Nanny?

Fair enough, people don't like him but I can't see how this can be compared to Neil Ferguso

Given he knows how bad it is - as you said - then surely he would have seen the issue with travelling 250 miles - probably going to a service station on the way - and spreading this awful disease to other people.

He would also be well aware of the R value and what it meant

Do people actually believe that they were both so ill that they couldn’t look after their own child but they managed a 250 mile drive??

He works for the prime minister ffs, I’m sure they could have sorted him some help for the child in an emergency!!