Dominic Cummings travelled from London to Durham to self isolate

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Seen running out of Downing Street
Went to self isolate with his wife in Durham with his parents when he had symptoms
Seems he had his family with him
He stayed with his wife and his parents looked after the children

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52779356

One rule for us, one rule for him

NotEverythingIsBlackandWhite so why does the government say that if you have CV symptoms you should not leave your home for any reason other than to get tested? Why doesn't it specify arranging child care is also OK even if you have to travel hundreds of miles to do so?

Wow, he must really be unpopular if neither he nor his wife, as well connected as they are, know no one in London who would help out with childcare in the dire situation where they were both on the verge of death

Indeed.

Noteverythingisblackandwhite
I disagree. Cummings and his wife are younger and therefore in a very different risk group to his uncle.

It is unlikely that they would both become hospitalised and unable to look after the child and infact it didn't happen.

His wife misled the public about their whereabouts, which to me suggests they knew they were on dodgy grounds.

They should have done what the rest of us do, put cbeebies on.

Do people actually believe that they were both so ill that they couldn’t look after their own child but they managed a 250 mile drive

Either he was ill and couldn't drive - or he wasn't that ill and could drive - thus spreading the disease to the North of England

He should resign, or be fired.

Says a lot about a couple that they would knowingly their elderly parents/in laws at risk.

As PPs say, if they were so ill they couldn’t care for their DC, how were they able to drive 250 miles?

Could you imagine what story would be in the press if they'd stayed in London, both been hospitalised, ventilated or even worse? Posters would be slagging DC off for being irresponsible for not sorting out childcare for their young son.

Erm, I believe we all who have sole care of children are very aware that if we don’t find anyone to take over while we are in hospital with Covid, the rules didn’t permit us to travel far away while infectious to take a kid to vulnerable grandparents. We plebs would be forced to let SS take over.

The Dominic Cummings whose mate got given the contract for the tracing app?

The very one - and yet still there are folk prepared to sign up to it

And the attitude of the BBC is sadly predictable; very easy to control an organisation whose funding you control, since a "licence fee review" could be pulled out of the hat at any time

noteverything
I don't think it's on at all. I have also considered what I would do with our children if we were both incapacitated with CV. Part of that plan involved me writing a book with instructions for my eldest on how to make simple meals, operate the washing machine and dishwasher. We agreed with friends and neighbours that if necessary we would bring hot food to the door for the children for each other, and shop for each other. We considered if we were hospitalised that my sister who is early 40s would travel here from her home to look after our children to prevent them being taken in to care.

Never at any point did we consider bundling our ill selves and asymptomatic but exposed children in the car and driving them 250 miles to my elderly mother who is in a much higher risk group, stopping en route to let the children have a wee and get petrol. It is exactly what we were told not to do. It's outrageous.

Fair enough, people don't like him but I can't see how this can be compared to Neil Ferguson persuading his mistress to travel to see him for sex

Ferguson wasn’t infectious.

BBC just said he came down with the illness the day after he drove them all up there.

If he wasn't ill, why did they need childcare?
DC's wife also had Covid-19, although not anyway near as badly as DC. It will be interesting to see the chronology of events. Maybe she was ill first and they had to consider DC getting it and them both being unable to care for their young son who is only 3 or 4 years old?

He was probably anticipating being very busy working for the Govt and not being able to take care of their son......and then caught Covid and was very ill with it anyway.

They travelled to Durham and self- isolated in part of the house so that their young son could be taken care of them in the event of them becoming very ill. I consider that responsible parenting.

The responsible thing would be to ask one of their family to travel to them- to isolate with them in London instead of spreading the disease by travelling themselves if they were concerned by childcare. At the time this occurred we were also being told children were ‘superspreaders’- although they science is less clear on that now- at the time we were led to believe that children could pass on the disease without being symptomatic. So yeah really responsible to get your elderly parents to look after a child who could of been spreading it and putting them in ITU- who is going to look after the child then?

Drunk on the red wall and Brexit they are no longer hiding in plain sight anymore. Time to man the barricades (but with the appropriate social distance).

No one would judge a couple unfortunate enough for both to be severely unwell or hospitalised. People in that situation have sought help from local friends/acquaintances, or social services. I know a couple this happened to, whose DC stayed with friends for several weeks.

Erm, I believe we all who have sole care of children are very aware that if we don’t find anyone to take over while we are in hospital with Covid, the rules didn’t permit us to travel far away while infectious to take a kid to vulnerable grandparents. We plebs would be forced to let SS take over.

This.

My mind boggles that he thinks "but we needed help with the kids" is in anyway an acceptable excuse. It adds I duly to injury as it further demonstrates he thinks the rules shouldn't apply to him,that his needs are great than ours.

If they don't fire him the Tories are (even more) screwed.

*insult to injury,I mean!

He should be sacked. All the rest of us would have to manage, that's what cbeebies and video games are for. Hypocrites and liars, both of them.

Maybe she was ill first and they had to consider DC getting it and them both being unable to care for their young son who is only 3 or 4 years old

Which is what everyone has had to do who have children.

What are the 'people' supposed to do?

Ismail Mohamed Abdulwahab, 13 years old died alone in hospital and than nobody from his family could attend his funeral because they had to self isolate. Something I can imagine will haunt his family for a long time. They followed the governments rules.

People are going through such a hard time and most people are doing as they are told. Why are his circumstances any different.

It will be interesting to see the chronology of events

What makes you think we'll ever know what happened and when?
Medical records in this country are rightly private, so basically he can say whatever he wants about his family's "illness"/infection status and no-one will be any the wiser

The footage of him half bent over running away like the fugitive that he is just made me laugh, what am idiot. Surely he could have just self isolated in his bedroom and let the wife take care of the kids (like the rest of the country has had to)
What sort of selfish idiot risks taking the virus to elderly parents?

'When Dominic and his wife became ill with Covid-19, they did not know how bad they were going to become. Knowing his uncle was gravely ill probably made them consider what to do if they became incapacitated. '

Yes, but there's always social services or next door neighbours apparently.

Could you imagine what story would be in the press if they'd stayed in London, both been hospitalised, ventilated or even worse? Posters would be slagging DC off for being irresponsible for not sorting out childcare for their young son

Why, @NotEverythingIsBlackandWhite? In the incredibly unlikely event that they really couldn't find a friend or relative to take over, and couldn't hire a nurse or a nanny, social services would have stepped in. Which is precisely what would happen for anyone else. You can't seriously suggest that the papers would be slagging them off for not choosing instead to drive 250 miles to drop their kid off with their parents.

Ismail Mohamed Abdulwahab, 13 years old died alone in hospital and than nobody from his family could attend his funeral because they had to self isolate. Something I can imagine will haunt his family for a long time. They followed the governments rules.

This

Rhonda
Why "apparently"?
What about a family member who isn't sick and isn't in a higher risk category travelling to them to care for the child?

Posters would be slagging DC off for being irresponsible for not sorting out childcare for their young son

I struggle to believe that Cummings role of "adviser" is something that couldn't be carried out by video call.