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Dominic Cummings travelled from London to Durham to self isolate

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chomalungma · 22/05/2020 22:05

Seen running out of Downing Street
Went to self isolate with his wife in Durham with his parents when he had symptoms
Seems he had his family with him
He stayed with his wife and his parents looked after the children

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52779356

One rule for us, one rule for him

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merrymouse · 23/05/2020 12:58

If they were confident that they weren't doing anything wrong, why didn't his wife include the story of the journey in the article? Why did she make it sound as though they didn't leave London?

If the government always believed that the 7day/14 day quarantine rules and second home rules could be stretched if parents were worried about childcare, why didn't they make this clear to everyone?

vera99 · 23/05/2020 13:00

There is no defence. Period. End of.

Ultrasoft · 23/05/2020 13:02

I wonder if Piers use of his second home would bear much scrutiny? He's been tweeting in horror about people on Southend beach this week (all within the current rules) from his large 2nd home, complete with extensive grounds and a pool. Just within the rules if he's been there for the duration but weren't people being told not to evacuate to country homes for fear of taking facilities intended for local people?

Besides he most enjoys bullying women.

Nihiloxica · 23/05/2020 13:04

The defence is that the rules are stupid and nobody should be sticking to them like they are the tenets of a new busybody religion.

I loathe Dominic Cummings, but getting caught going to visit his parents seems the very least of our worries where he is concerned.

The crazy thing is that an entire country allowed itself to be distanced from family for months on end.

NotEverythingIsBlackandWhite · 23/05/2020 13:11

All within the rules - right in that case, I’m not feeling so good today, I think it might be Coronavirus, my husband feels the same.
Dominic Cummings and his wife tested positive for Coronavirus. They didn't just think they had it.

olivesandolives · 23/05/2020 13:11

*How does he have so much power ?
He is unelected.
I'm in Ireland so he and his actions don't really affect me. Oh wait
Brexit and it's implications for Ireland and the border with Northern Ireland .
*
He must know where the bodies are buried. He must.

NotEverythingIsBlackandWhite · 23/05/2020 13:19

Article on the BBC about a nurse who hasn’t hugged her 2 year old in 5 weeks
Presumably she made the decision to do that based on her own judgement. There isn't a rule or a law that said she can't hug her child is there?

Randomschoolworker19 · 23/05/2020 13:24

His position is untenable and he must resign or be sacked.

You cannot drive nearly 300 miles to give your young child to your elderly and vulnerable parents when you knowingly have a highly contagious and dangerous disease.

His child could have been asymptomatic (highly likely with both parents infected) and could have transmitted the virus to his parents.

Even if he didn't get out of his car, if he had been involved in an accident he would have put emergency services personnel at risk and taken resources away from the NHS.

Okay, he got lucky and none of that happened. That doesn't change the fact he is a member of the PM's team. Given his position, he should actually be more cautious than the rules given to the public in order to set an example and be seen above reproach.

If he is not sacked or resigns then we may as well end lock down now. How will people be able to have confidence in the government if that does not happen?

JoeExoticsEyebrowRing · 23/05/2020 13:24

Dominic Cummings and his wife tested positive for Coronavirus. They didn't just think they had it.

I know you are just responding to another poster with this, but the fact they knew for sure they had Covid makes it even worse!

Saladmakesmesad · 23/05/2020 13:25

Presumably she made the decision to do that based on her own judgement. There isn't a rule or a law that said she can't hug her child is there?

Spectacularly missing the point. My point is people have made huge sacrifices. But the selfish cunts in charge can’t even stick to the rules they’re making.

Saladmakesmesad · 23/05/2020 13:26

This coming out at the start of half term also means people will go to their second homes now.

JoeExoticsEyebrowRing · 23/05/2020 13:27

You cannot drive nearly 300 miles to give your young child to your elderly and vulnerable parents when you knowingly have a highly contagious and dangerous disease.*

His child could have been asymptomatic (highly likely with both parents infected) and could have transmitted the virus to his parents.

It's not so much this that bothers me - presumably the parents were aware they had tested positive and were still willing to have them up to them, that is their choice.

It's that he has spent the last few months telling the plebs that they cannot do this and they must not do that, whilst doing the exact thing himself.

Settlersofcatan · 23/05/2020 13:28

Taking care of his wife and child would ne actually taking care of them. What he seems to have done is panic that he might have to care for them and got other women ready just in case he might come close to needing to do it

whatnametopick · 23/05/2020 13:29

So the government message has always been that for the majority of people the illness would be mild to moderate but Cummings and his wife thought that they would be so affected by covid they had to travel across England for help, doesn't add up?

merrymouse · 23/05/2020 13:34

It's that he has spent the last few months telling the plebs that they cannot do this and they must not do that, whilst doing the exact thing himself.

Exactly - I'm sure that most people can think of a perfectly good reason why one of the rules shouldn't have applied to them, but nevertheless people have obeyed the rules to stop the virus spreading, even when it has caused them hardship.

Now government ministers are retrospectively telling us that the rules were optional.

JoeExoticsEyebrowRing · 23/05/2020 13:36

Spectacularly missing the point. My point is people have made huge sacrifices. But the selfish cunts in charge can’t even stick to the rules they’re making.

I know. People are making huge sacrifices and they can't even be arsed to look after their own child. The wife said in the article that she didn't get it that bad.

ILikeSardines · 23/05/2020 13:38

The two most recent Pro Cummings posts are now moving to blaming the general public for adhering to government guidelines during totally unprecedented global situation, with the government saying protect the NHS, we all need to follow the rules to avoid large numbers of deaths from covid and it's your responsibility as a society to protect.

The idea that anyone who adhered to the guidelines is STUPID is beyond insulting. To say that the vast majority of the UK population is thick, to protect ONE man is just mad.

janet1267 · 23/05/2020 13:40

He's completely taking the piss, and his wife has made money out of writing a farcical article about their experience. His arrogance is astounding.

I'm astounded that anyone is defending this when so many of us have made sacrifices for weeks.

He should resign and I'm probably now of the view that the PM shouldn't be far behind unless he sacks him. I've already emailed my Tory MP making it clear what my thoughts are. I'm furious at these arrogant clowns.

ILikeSardines · 23/05/2020 13:41

I think this plays to the government policy of being so inconsistent and contradictory, that everyone gives up, and then they can say well it wasn't our fault it was up to you.

I also agree with those who say it's nonsense that there was no one in London to look after their kid.

ILikeSardines · 23/05/2020 13:43

I also always felt that the self isolation in your home with symptoms, don't go anywhere guidance spectacularly failed to give any advice on what to do if you had young kids.

Well know we know why. You could do exactly whatever the fuck you like. And those of us who didn't understand that non existent message in amongst the firm stay at home instruction were just stupid.

JanetheObscure · 23/05/2020 14:05

If they were confident that they weren't doing anything wrong, why didn't his wife include the story of the journey in the article? Why did she make it sound as though they didn't leave London?

This.

It's very telling that she left that quite significant detail out.

Smileyoriley · 23/05/2020 14:09

Sack him. If not, why not?

JetSetGo · 23/05/2020 14:10

I dont see what all the fuss is about. He justs wants to be with his family right?

Media stirring trouble as there isnt any other news at the moment

ILikeSardines · 23/05/2020 14:10

This also shows up a really worrying shift that the Tories have copied from trump.

In the political system is underpinned on the idea that those in charge are responsible with some kind of sense of duty. In the past when people were exposed as doing wrong they would resign. Even if they personally didn't feel a sense of duty etc that they had broken, it was the firm expectation of society etc.

What trump showed was that if you refuse and tell outright lies, there's nothing in place to actually stop them, really. And that society would say how awful but actually, what could they do.

This has been the current government approach from day 1. Lie to the public. Then lie and lie some more. And do whatever you want.

I'm not sure how to deal with this, accountability seems to have gone.

Egghead68 · 23/05/2020 14:11

Perhaps MG leaked this to the press to destabilise BJ.

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