This is why I won't be sending my children back to school

[softjellycell]

1 primary school teacher tests positive for corona virus
18 children have come into contact with the virus
18 key workers have to stop work
30 teaching colleagues have to stop work and self isolate.
Key worker children no longer have any provision at that school.
Bristol May 14th 2020.

www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/live-coronavirus-updates-bristol-teacher-4135096

Headache my school is saying if anyone in a group displays symptoms the entire group is excluded for two weeks including the teacher. It is utterly ridiculous.

It is such a luxury to have a choice as to whether or not you send your child to school/childcare. I am not so lucky to have this choice, I have to work and I cannot work with my child attached to my hip.

The teaching colleagues don't have to stop work.

Nice @croprotationinthe13thcentury
I can see why school is actually very much needed.

@Oaktree55

“Safe” isn’t particularly meaningful in this debate. Have or read of what the Children’s commissioner has said as she explains the issues far better than I could.

www.childrenscommissioner.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/cco-we-dont-need-no-education.pdf

@olivehater I can't find the guidance now that was released from DfE on Monday but it definitely didn't say that was necessary in there. There was guidance but it was different to what you've been told.

‘Safe’ and ‘not safe’ aren’t black and white. Everything has a degree of risk. People are having to decide whether the risk of sending their child to school is greater or lesser than the risk of keeping their child at home. It’s a tough choice for everyone, and one that many wish they didn’t have to make. So this constant narrative over what other people should or should not be doing is not helpful. In fact it’s greatly damaging.

Before we knew Corona Virus was prevalent in the UK there were so many posts on here stating that we should "be kind" following Caroline Flacks death.
What's changed? It is a vipers pit on MN at the moment

It’s also a choice many don’t have, so I urge people to be mindful of that when telling others it’s not ‘safe’ for them to be at school.

No it’s not necessary but it’s what our head teacher is doing. I really don’t think he wants anyone back.

OP I understand your worry and decision. Unless things change, I’m in no hurry to send mine back.

I think it’s time for social services and schools to work together to help children who may be at risk at home. In fact they already do.

*But it's ok to judge those who aren't it seems

Is it? As I said above, this is not something I’ve seen. I’ve seen many who aren’t sending theirs to school attempting to sway those who are, being very vocal about their reasons, implying that they’re putting their children at risk, whereas the ones who are sending theirs back tend to be just getting on with it (until they feel the need to defend their decision against those who are judging).
It really is simple. If you don’t want yours to go to school and you have the means to keep them at home, don’t send them. It’s perfectly within your rights. That makes the situation easier for those who do want/need to send theirs for whatever reason, as numbers will be lower. It really is a win/win situation. *

Erm, for some reason you've directed this at me. Don't think I've said anywhere what I will or won't do with my kids. You only need to read the thread to see that there's judgement going both ways.

Thanks for simplifying it for me but it really wasn't necessary.

Crack on then OP. Mine are going back, and I am not really concerned if they catch it.

You only need to read the thread to see that there's judgement going both ways.

So you keep saying. You have accused me of being judgemental yet have not managed to quote where I have been judgemental - I haven't been.

Erm, for some reason you've directed this at me. Don't think I've said anywhere what I will or won't do with my kids. You only need to read the thread to see that there's judgement going both ways

No. The first paragraph, in which I quoted you, was aimed at you.
The second paragraph was aimed at the collective ‘you’. Sorry I should have specified.

"I think it’s time for social services and schools to work together to help children who may be at risk at home. In fact they already do."

A child being safer in school doesn't have to mean they are at risk from their parents at home. A child can be safer in school for other reasons.

What are you talking about OP? The only people who have to self isolate in your example are the teacher (for 7 days) and her immediate household members (for 14 days or until results of tests) . Not the pupils she teaches, or anyone related to them.

you can interpret the statistics are you please and find arguments either way.

You most certainly can. 🤨

Now. Can we crack on with sending our kids back to school, you move out of our business and just do whatever you want - like choose to homeschool your own kids?

And leave the rest of us in peace.

Ta.

@softjellycell what?! where have I accused you of anything?

This thread is utterly bonkers 😂

My god pics the irony 🙈

Cringing

3cats

The data was about suicide rates in Japanese "salaryman" adults.

Nothing to do with kids in school.

So a clear misuse of data if used to "prove" an entirely different point whilst failing to acknowledge the full origin and nature of the data.

Naughty naughty.

It is really vicious on social media these days. I wish we could discuss things rationally like adults, but people’s hackles get up and people get really snarky and unpleasant. I’m so tired of it, so I will respectfully bow out.

@Sleepyblueocean

"A child being safer in school doesn't have to mean they are at risk from their parents at home. A child can be safer in school for other reasons."

That is very true and an important point.

What other reasons would a child be safer in school than at home? I’m not being goady and it’s probably something very obvious but I don’t know what.