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This is why I won't be sending my children back to school

192 replies

softjellycell · 16/05/2020 12:06

1 primary school teacher tests positive for corona virus
18 children have come into contact with the virus
18 key workers have to stop work
30 teaching colleagues have to stop work and self isolate.
Key worker children no longer have any provision at that school.
Bristol May 14th 2020.

www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/live-coronavirus-updates-bristol-teacher-4135096

OP posts:
DBML · 16/05/2020 14:02

I am a teacher.

I am looking forward to returning to school, once the building can accommodate us in the ways required. I hope that will be sooner rather than later. I will choose to wear a mask and possibly a visor. I will have a screen around my desk. I will wear gloves and I’ll probably supply it all myself. If we can safely(ish) return to work on June 1st, then I shall be first in the car park.

But after reading some of the threads today, I will not be sending my year 10 son back until I deem it safe to. I will hone educate him myself.

My reason is that, clearly some parents are allowing their children out to socialise, not knowing who they are with, how many people are there or possibly even where they are. (Do teenagers even care? Thread).

For me this is an unacceptable risk. To allow my son to start to mix with others who have not maintained the same level of social distancing as my son has.

So, I’ll let everyone else’s kids go back to school first and wait to see what happens.

Then I’ll make an informed decision about my own son’s attendance, that has his health and well-being in mind.

LEELULUMPKIN · 16/05/2020 14:03

@Drivingdownthe101 Very well said.

Remmy123 · 16/05/2020 14:03

What do you think will happen if your hood gets aroma virus? Does he/she have underlying conditions.

If not you are being ridiculous. Kawasaki is incredibly rare. In one London hispital one child got it, home after 5 days. I know that For a fact.

Remmy123 · 16/05/2020 14:04

Child not hood

NoCaseToAnswer · 16/05/2020 14:08

Now you've corrected yourself OP, I'm still not sure what your point is?

A special ed school has temporarily closed due to teachers with CV. The school was only open for those children of keyworkers and vulnerable pupils who need to be there anyway. And the pupils have very specific needs.

You're saying this is why you won't send your children back to school? Why?

amijustparanoidorjuststoned · 16/05/2020 14:11

Okay... that's nice?

softjellycell · 16/05/2020 14:12

Now you've corrected yourself OP, I'm still not sure what your point is?

I have not corrected myself anywhere. As you are failing to understand my point then I am not going to carry on trying to explain it to you as you seem determined to be obtuse. Have a nice day.

OP posts:
Bluntness100 · 16/05/2020 14:13

Did someone ask you why you’re not sending your kids to school or something ? You don’t need to there is no fines. Just crack on and keep them home, irrelevant of the reason.

PicsInRed · 16/05/2020 14:13

do you think attending school stops children and their mothers being hurt by men?! If only! Sadly this awful stuff will go on regardless.

There is quite obviously less time for hurting if the kids are out of the house for 6 hours a day - and seen 5 days a week by others outside the family. It also affords these kids one hot square meal a day and 6 hours of respite from abuse. Some exercise and some socialising outside the sphere or abuse. Pick up and drop off gives the mother opportunity for a walk and social connections. Wouldn't you like 6 hours respite from abuse and hunger for 6 hours, 5 days a week?

Or are we only concerned with the needs of our own privileged demographic? Deeply concerned about the children ... but only to the extent that the concern overlaps with our own want to allay our own anxiety?

One side here argues for personal choice and the other argues for their own wants, with schools to remain closed to all for that end. Who is selfish and unreasonable there? I would contend it is those who seek to impose their personal anxiety and wants on all others.

Bluntness100 · 16/05/2020 14:18

I just don’t understand threads like this.

I mean really who cares why you’re not sending your kids to school other than their other parent and your kids? And I guess the school?

What are we expecting here, every single one of the 16 millions members on here who are parents to start a thread saying this is why I’m sending them or this is why I’m not?

Seriously just get on with it.

JoanieCash · 16/05/2020 14:19

FGS. As per PP: even if story true the chain of events isn’t. You isolate if someone you live with has symptoms, not because you’ve been in contact with a case outside the house, otherwise virtually entire NHS workforce would be self isolating continuously.

strugglingwithdeciding · 16/05/2020 14:22

How about this
You decide what to do about your child and I will decide about my child
This is how it should be across the board , I won't criticise those that do the opposite to me as I understand it is their choice , their child and I don't know their circumstances .
It's no one else's business

Drivingdownthe101 · 16/05/2020 14:22

Sadly Bluntness I think the aim of these threads is to make people who have made different decisions in the best interests of their children to feel bad about themselves, or to persuade them to change their minds about the decision they’ve made. I’m not sure why they want them to change their minds... either for validation or because they don’t want others to have something they haven’t.
I have no idea about this OP’s specific motives of course, but that is the general trend.
Unless asked, I won’t be giving anyone the reasons for my decision. And I’m not interested in anyone else’s reason either. Their children are not my children, their circumstances are not my circumstances.

NoCaseToAnswer · 16/05/2020 14:25

Well yes, you did have to correct yourself since the link in your OP bore no resemblance to your OP and you'd read a rag of a newspaper article saying ' up to 18 vulnerable children were attending', to mean that 18 keyworkers have to stop work.

Nothing to indicate they were the children of keyworkers at all. Nor that if they were, the keyworkers would have to stop work. How did you come to this conclusion?

You also took 'up to 30 staff on site' to mean 30 staff having to isolate which is also a conclusion you have come to which may not be correct.

And this is a special school where staff have to provide intimate personal care.

And you said this is why you won't send your DC back to school but as you seem to have forgotten how you came to this conclusion, you want to suggest that others are obtuse.

And you don't have the good grace to even admit you posted the wrong link in your OP then accused other posters of 'naming another school incorrectly'.

PicsInRed · 16/05/2020 14:27

Also activism is halted at the moment.

I've noticed that those I know who are most usually heavily involved in activism are the most fervently outspoken on what everyone else chooses for their own children. Its just a correlation...but it's a strong one.

MrsNettle · 16/05/2020 14:28

Hahaha! OP, I've only read your original post and had a good chuckle.
If every work place followed your plan (?!), we wouldn't have any supermarkets, factories open! Surely, if one meat factory line manager tests positive, every colleague should be isolating, from production to the office staff! The same goes for loads of other places currently open.

vengeancer · 16/05/2020 14:28

I just don’t understand threads like this.

I think the OP is actually very insecure about her decision and is looking for validation and a pat on the back.for her choice. There would be no point in this actually quite pointless thread if the OP was 100% content with her decision .

Drivingdownthe101 · 16/05/2020 14:29

Oh and another reason... some just want a pat on the back.

Sandybval · 16/05/2020 14:35

mean really who cares why you’re not sending your kids to school other than their other parent and your kids? And I guess the school?

Exactly, do other people really give a shit?

3cats · 16/05/2020 14:36

It seems you hit a nerve, OP.

A friend living abroad, told me that suicides are down by 20% since social distancing started. I wonder if in the UK too whether for a lot of children, their mental health isn’t actually better for not being at school,

Bluntness100 · 16/05/2020 14:38

Venegencer and driving down make good points,

Op is someone at home not agreeing with you? The other parent? Are you under some form of pressure to send them? Are you employed and risk loosing your job? Worried about your decision?do you kids agree with you?

Obviously you’re posting like your personal decision is a matter of public interest, and everyone needs to know. When actually they don’t and don’t really care. So what’s driving you to be informing everyone like this?

twinnywinny14 · 16/05/2020 14:46

@whatsleep the ‘pod’ only isolates once a positive test comes back. By which point the others have probably spread it amongst themselves. Also 2 adults to each pod. Between the 17 people they also spread it to their families, who in turn are also going to school and/or work and passing it on further

NoCaseToAnswer · 16/05/2020 14:47

@PicsInRed Good post.

This attitude of 'they'll be abused anyway' is so simplistic and dismissive.

Why do these people think we have DV campaigns every Christmas?

Because there's a spike in DV and child abuse.

Why?

Social stress; financial stress, family stress, environmental stress and increased alcohol use.

The CV crisis has these stressors magnified many, many times in addition to totally new stressors which we literally didn't have to think about until a few weeks ago.

But this isn't lasting just a few days over Xmas and NY, we're now going into the 3rd MONTH with no defined end point in sight.

CarpeVitam · 16/05/2020 14:55

@NoCaseToAnswer

It seem that you're the one looking for a "bun fight" 🙄🙄

iamapixie · 16/05/2020 14:58

Everyone must do what they think best.
Just de register your child and home educate. If everyone who feels the same way does that, schools will be far easier to reopen as there will be far fewer children to teach. That will make the unions happier, and therefore perhaps more willing to compromise; and the government will be able to be more compromising too knowing that they can cut costs going forward as fewer teachers will be needed and can therefore be made redundant.
Then those of us who would like our children schooled will be able to send them back to schools with probably far better teacher to pupil ratios.