Millions of children could die! Where is the outrage?!

[Mumlove5]

These lockdowns will kill more people than coronavirus, which is mild for the majority of people. Mass hysteria has taken over logic and common sense. Poor and broken economies always lead to poor health both physically and mentally, and death.

People need to stop being so shortsighted and wake-up...

www.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/may/06/millions-develop-tuberculosis-tb-covid-19-lockdown

The head of a global partnership to end tuberculosis (TB) said she is “sickened” by research that revealed millions more people are expected to contract the disease as a result of Covid-19 restrictions.

Up to 6.3 million more people are predicted to develop TB between now and 2025 and 1.4 million more people are expected to die as cases go undiagnosed and untreated during lockdown. This will set back global efforts to end TB by five to eight years.

“The fear we have in the community is that researchers are heading towards just developing a vaccine for Covid. That’s on the agenda of everyone now and very few remain focused on the others [diseases]. We don’t have a vaccine for TB, we don’t have a vaccine for HIV, we don’t have a vaccine for malaria and out of all this, TB is the oldest. So why this reaction? I think because we are a world of idiots. What can I say?”

www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/unicef-warns-lockdown-could-kill-covid-19-model-predicts-12/

Unicef warns lockdown could kill more than Covid-19 as model predicts 1.2 million child deaths
'Indiscriminate lockdowns' are an ineffective way to control Covid and could contribute to a 45 per cent rise in child mortality

The risk of children dying from malaria, pneumonia or diarrhoea in developing countries is spiralling due to the pandemic and “far outweighs any threat presented by the coronavirus”, Unicef has warned.

In an exclusive interview Dr Stefan Peterson, chief of health at Unicef, cautioned that the blanket lockdowns imposed in many low and middle income are not an effective way to control Covid-19 and could have deadly repercussions.

“I’m concerned that lockdown measures have been copied between countries for lack of knowing what to do, rarely with any contextualisation for the local situation,” he said.

According to a stark report published in Lancet Global Health journal on Wednesday, almost 1.2 million children could die in the next six months due to the disruption to health services and food supplies caused by the coronavirus pandemic.

BCG vaccination is only recommended on the NHSfor babies, childrenand adults under the age of 35 who are at risk of catching tuberculosis (TB).

There's no evidence the BCG vaccineworks for people over the age of 35.

@JoeExoticsEyebrowRing yes exactly..... but why react differently for kids compared to older people?

Life is life!

Covid19 affects most countries and is NOT treatable. That's why.

Covid19 has a mortality rate of 0.1 - 0.5%... and that’s for people who have at least one co-morbidity. The median age is 80 for men and 84 for women.

I think because we are a world of idiots.

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She's got that right

BCG vaccination is only recommended on the NHS for babies, children and adults under the age of 35 who are at risk of catching tuberculosis (TB). There's no evidence the BCG vaccine works for people over the age of 35.

The BCG has been around for my entire life, it has been in the UK vaccination schedule since 1953 but my husband is from another country and he had it in 1947.

There isn’t a TB vaccine for adults. Children, yes. Well that is odd, my DS didn't get TB vaccination as it had stopped before he was due to get it. When he started his nurse training he had to have it before he was allowed on placement. What were the NHS thinking of!!!!

I'm with you in this. No idea what our lockdown has to do with anything

I imagine OP is talking about the devastating effect this could have on other countries. Just because it doesn't directly affect us us, that's not a reason to not be concerned.

I blame those lazy fuckers, the teachers.

There's no evidence the BCG vaccine works for people over the age of 35. Well it has been around for nearly 100 years so no reason why people can't get it before they are 35. I live in leafy rural Devon and I've had it, all my kids have had it, my older GC have had it, the younger ones will have it.

There isn't any vaccine for Covid 19, now can you think of a reason why that might be more of a problem than people needing to get their BCG vaccination before they are 35?

@managedmis

Agreed. Mainly because people are really putting their faith into the mainstream media and the government.

Governments who cowered to the media, panic and flawed modeling.

A prime minister or president will never admit they were wrong.

Why don’t we have an effective tuberculosis vaccine yet?

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4950406/

It doesnt work well in adults - even says it on the nhs website Well it works a hell of a lot better than the non existent Covid 19 vaccine.

Bcg is not in the immunisation schedule and hasnt been for years. Dh and I got it at school but my kids havent had it.

Just because it isn't on the immunisation schedule doesn't mean it has ceased to exist. There is a BCG vaccination there isn't one for Covid 19, that is a simple fact.

Theresa vaccine for TB, it lasts your lifetime (or you have a booster if immunity drops) I've had it

The BCG vaccine is of variable effectiveness even in children. That's why it's use is limited in the UK now. Although there is treatment for TB, many strains now are resistant to existing treatments so it is an increasing problem and will continue to increase without further research.

It doesnt work well in adults - even says it on the nhs website Well it works a hell of a lot better than the non existent Covid 19 vaccine.

And there may never be a Covid-19 vaccine. We can not lockdown and social distancing until their “might” be one which could be at least a year away.

People have to realize that this virus is very low risk for those under the age of 65, as per Chris Whitty. Shield the vulnerable and let’s move on.

There weren’t any lockdowns during the 1968 Pandemic. The world population was half than it is today... so extrapolate those numbers to now.

The 1968 pandemic was caused by an influenza A (H3N2) virus comprised of two genes from an avian influenza A virus, including a new H3 hemagglutinin, but also contained the N2 neuraminidase from the 1957 H2N2 virus. It was first noted in the United States in September 1968. The estimated number of deaths was 1 million worldwide and about 100,000 in the United States. Most excess deaths were in people 65 years and older. The H3N2 virus continues to circulate worldwide as a seasonal influenza A virus. Seasonal H3N2 viruses, which are associated with severe illness in older people, undergo regular antigenic drift.

BCG lasts somewhere between 15 and maybe 60 years so no guarantee it lasts for your lifetime

There may never be a vaccine for covid 19. There are few vaccines for other coronaviruses

OP please read between the lines of what is happening. If the potential impact of this was not so catastrophic then we would most definitely be opening up very soon. Governments around the world are prioritising public health over economic health because they know the REAL long term prospects of a World with COVID19 running wild is not going to prosper or survive very long.

So yes Lockdown is difficult, it’s very hard, many people will no doubt die from its effects, many people are probably living in hell and it’s a tragedy of course it is. But unfortunately the alternative would be far, far worse. This isn’t a scam, hoax or trick, it’s a global catastrophe that would have repercussions we can not imagine if such lockdowns were not put in place, the lesser of two evils.

I thought we did have a TB vaccine?
There was also developed in 2015 for malaria, although there are doubts as to the efficiency of it.
While I agree that the "west" has for years ignored more serious diseases that don't really affect them in developed countries, developing a vaccine for this ASAP should be a priority. There are many poor countries where covid-19 would be a humanitarian disaster.

I agree 136 people under 40 have died of coronvirus in the UK, 31 people with any unknown health conditions. This is up to 7th May.

www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/05/COVID-19-total-announced-deaths-12-May-2020.xlsx

Also, we're comparing apples and oranges.

There IS treatment for TB.
There is no treatment for covid-19 that has scientifically proven to work.

We don’t have a vaccine for TB,

When there is such a simple factual error in a statement, there's nothing to be gained from reading on.

I have a question to ask, how many lives have been saved by the lockdown? Everyone talks about the cost of life due to the lockdown but no one ever seems to consider how many it has saved. They look at the number of lives lost and that seems to be it. Why?

@Wehttam

I wouldn’t use the vocabulary, a scam or hoax. An overreaction, of course. There is no evidence or proof that lockdowns prevented hundreds of thousands of deaths. The imperial college model that predicted 500k deaths if we did nothing has been debunked.

Would no lockdowns prevent covid-19 deaths? No. However deaths would have been a little more without a lockdown... not the catastrophe which mathematical modeling based on unreliable data predicted. Sweden and other countries that did not lockdown are proof of that.