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Stay Alert, Control the Virus, Save Lives

159 replies

FirTree31 · 10/05/2020 08:11

How do you feel about the slogan changing to "stay alert" instead of of "stay home"?

I know there's quite a few posts this weekend about people's behaviour having already changed, so perhaps this will just mean people feel justified in their actions.

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AlexaShutUp · 10/05/2020 11:13

The new slogan is meaningless to me.I don't know how to stay alert to something that I can't see. I don't know how to control the virus.

I will be continuing to stay at home, observe social distancing and practise good hand hygiene, but for many, I think the new slogan will be a green light to do whatever they please.

SqidgeBum · 10/05/2020 11:15

I am a teacher. DH cant wfh and is furloughed. If the government are saying return to work, we need the nursery to open. If it doesnt open then my MIL will have to take our kid (which means a 45 minute drive each way for her).

On sky news now they are talking about how the emphasis is now on going back to work if you cant wfh.

DanielleHirondelle · 10/05/2020 11:16

@Oneliner
Sadly I fear you will be right.

@PuppyMonkey
@SqidgeBum
Agree with you both re the PR on this

FirTree31 · 10/05/2020 11:18

I can WFH, but I am a single parent now, with two boys aged 5&9, and this has been the busiest and most stressful time. I can't work properly, I can't home school properly. If people at my work start to return to work, even on a rota basis which is what has been suggested, I will feel even worse.

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Millicent10 · 10/05/2020 11:27

The new slogan is very vague. People respond to instructions, ‘wash your hands‘ - clear, ‘stay at home’ - clear, ‘stay alert’ - ok for a neighbourhood watch scheme but very meaningless in the context of a virus. If experts have designed this slogan they have purposely made it vague, I agree that they are still pursuing their original herd immunity plan.

justdontatme · 10/05/2020 11:33

Apparently (I have no source for this stat, I read it on MN) only 17% of the working population have kids aged primary school & under, so it is possible that they can get more people back to work without opening childcare (working on the assumption that older children can be left at home). They need to make explicit that employers cannot penalise employees who can’t return to work because of childcare/schools still being closed if that is their goal.

Drivingdownthe101 · 10/05/2020 11:36

They need to make explicit that employers cannot penalise employees who can’t return to work because of childcare/schools still being closed if that is their goal

The problem is they can make it as clear as they want, but when it comes to the next round of redundancies who are they going to pick? Those who came back to work or those who couldn’t because they were forced to homeschool their DC.

The80sweregreat · 10/05/2020 12:01

I feel so sorry for people who will have to drop to one wage through no fault of their own. it's heart breaking and the government and businesses will allow it to happen as well.
With potentially 2 million unemployed by the summer time they will just chose the ones to take their place without any children. :(
My guess is women will come off worse as well.

Drivingdownthe101 · 10/05/2020 12:06

Definitely The80sweregreat. Women generally the lowest earners so will be the ones who are forced to quit work.

SqidgeBum · 10/05/2020 12:09

Or people will just drop the kids off at the grandparents because they cant afford to quit or they will lose the house, which makes everything we have done over the past 7 weeks pointless ..... which is exactly what i will have to do. How many teachers are female and have kids in nursery? Answer; huge amounts. You want school kids back so people can go back to work, the nurseries have to open.

Bollss · 10/05/2020 12:10

Yep. If the government want me to be a 1950s housewife then I want compensating for my loss of income.

nellodee · 10/05/2020 12:12

I'd advocate for all the year 11s and 13s and university students to help out with childcare, but you know that would fall entirely on the female half of that demographic if that happened.

SqidgeBum · 10/05/2020 12:16

@nellodee sorry but no way would I leave my 18 month old with some random year 11 or year 13. I teach them. Most cant remember to bring a pen to class.

WatcherintheRye · 10/05/2020 12:19

If you must have a slogan for coming out of lockdown how about 'Maintain distance, minimise risk'?

(Inspired by pps and the other thread, but I claim the copyright!)

YogaLite · 10/05/2020 12:19

@SqidgeBum Grin

The80sweregreat · 10/05/2020 12:20

It's so sad but I bet a lot of people ( mostly men and maybe a handful of women) would love this notion of more women at home.
There is a difference between doing this out of choice or being made to do it by employers who probably already see a family with children to worry about as a pain! They will grab these new opportunities to make life difficult and revel in it!

Youngatheart00 · 10/05/2020 12:22

The virus doesn’t care about alertness! And can’t be ‘controlled’. Only people can be controlled (either by instruction or their own volition).

I think stay at home should have been the main message still - maybe ‘think twice’

Splodgetastic · 10/05/2020 12:26

What a meaningless and bullocks slogan! You stay alert for bombs and shooters, not for germs.

Splodgetastic · 10/05/2020 12:26

I mean bollocks.

imsooverthisdrama · 10/05/2020 12:36

Oh that's a shame I'll miss all those stay the fuck home on Facebook although they may say stay the fuck alert! .

StrawberryJam200 · 10/05/2020 12:36

Year 11s are 16/15, Year 13s are 18/17.

BetsyJameson · 10/05/2020 12:37

Even with the stay at home slogan and lockdown, it was obvious a lot of people took no notice of it so why change it to this to encourage even more people out unnecessarily. I think they are definitely hoping for herd immunity and don’t care how many more deaths it causes.

StrawberryJam200 · 10/05/2020 12:40

From what I heard last night on the radio the slogan will go alongside a new Alert system which will tell us if cases have gone up in our area (no idea how big an "area" is) and therefore what rules currently apply. It's the in and out of lockdown stage. Presumably by text and other means?
That makes the slogan slightly more understandable I think.

But yes I'm worried that many are going to take it to mean "Crisis over, just keep an eye out while you go about your normal lives."

BigChocFrenzy · 10/05/2020 13:20

If BJ wants a slogan, it should give clarity as to what we should do, not piffle

I hope this one is ditched when they see how confusing it could be

What about
"Go to work. Stay Calm. Help fund the NHS"

B1rdbra1n · 10/05/2020 13:24

Forget stay alert, get stoned instead
legal weed is what we need
amp.dw.com/en/coronavirus-the-tide-is-coming-for-medicinal-cannabis/a-53371342
Cannabis researchers in Canada say the plant-based drug may provide resistance to SARS-CoV-2. Their preliminary findings are part of broader research into the use of medicinal cannabis in treating cancer.
The search for a vaccine for the new coronavirus, SARS-CoV-2, or indeed a medicinal drug to cure it, has taken researchers down both traditional and less traditional avenues.
They have looked at existing drug candidates, such as remdesivir, which was original developed to treat Ebola. In Germany, the first clinical trials for a coronavirus vaccine are based on a candidate developed for cancer immunology.
There's a study out of France that suggests nicotine — typically ingested via the often-lethal pastime of smoking — may protect people against the novel coronavirus, itself a potentially fatal lung infection.
And, now, preliminary research is emerging out of Canada that certain strains of the psychoactive drug cannabis may also increase resistance to the coronavirus. If the study, which is not yet peer reviewed, can be verified, it would appear that cannabis works in a similar way to nicotine.
"The results on COVID-19 came from our studies on arthritis, Crohn's disease, cancer and others," says Dr. Igor Kovalchuck, a professor of Biological Sciences at the University of Lethbridge, in an email to DW.
As with the research into nicotine's effect on the coronavirus, it is thought that some strains of cannabis reduce the virus' ability to enter the lungs, where it takes hold, reproduces and spreads.
In a paper on preprints.org, where scientists can publish non-peer-reviewed results, Kovalchuck and colleagues write that their specially developed strains of cannabis effectively stop the virus from entering the human body.

The study is one of many papers globally that have been shared on preprint websites, including preprints.org, in a bid to disseminate preliminary findings into potential COVID-19 treatments that have yet to undergo rigorous peer review.
The coronavirus needs a "receptor" to enter a human host. That receptor is known as an "angiotensin-converting enzyme II," or ACE2.
ACE2 is found in lung tissue, in oral and nasal mucus, in the kidneys, testes, and gastrointestinal tracts, they write.
And the theory is that by modulating ACE2 levels in those "gateways" to the human host, it may be possible to lower our susceptibility, or vulnerability, to the virus. It could basically reduce our risk of infection.
"If there's no ACE2 on tissues, the virus will not enter," says Kovalchuck.
The Alberta-based researchers have focused on strains of the plant, Cannabis sativa, that are high in an anti-inflammatory cannabinoid, cannabidiol (CBD) — one of the other main chemicals in cannabis, aside from THC.
They have developed over 800 new Cannabis sativa variants, with high levels of CBD, and identified 13 extracts which they say modulate ACE2 levels in those humans gateways.