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Stay Alert, Control the Virus, Save Lives

159 replies

FirTree31 · 10/05/2020 08:11

How do you feel about the slogan changing to "stay alert" instead of of "stay home"?

I know there's quite a few posts this weekend about people's behaviour having already changed, so perhaps this will just mean people feel justified in their actions.

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Savingshoes · 10/05/2020 10:30

I think it would be more beneficial if it came with some health education too.
Children are taught about puberty and sex education to allow them to make informed decisions about their own bodies.
Those who work with heavy loads are provided with moving and handling training so they can ensure they reduce their risk of injuries at work.
We also have slogans like slip, slop, slap. Catch it, kill it, bin it. Stop, drop, roll.
Maybe we opportunities to train or be educated in infection control, the difference between bacteria and viral infections and your options. At the moment, everyone appears to be an expert - even the assistant in the supermarket spraying anti-bac on trolleys and the police warning people sitting on their own in the middle of a field that they need to be home.

The80sweregreat · 10/05/2020 10:30

I'm going to ' stay alert' to any rubbish the government tell me to do.
They haven't covered themselves in that much glory so far so we should make sure we use our own common sense to get through this and take any ' roadmap' as just a bit of guidance from a govt that has to be seen as doing something to get the exit strategy in place. It's all just propaganda as they know the police can't force the majority of it as there isn't enough of them to go round.

He has to mention visiting family : (although people are doing this anyway ) , so maybe that will be as ambiguous as the rest might be.

DanielleHirondelle · 10/05/2020 10:30

@Kit19
So no real change then!

Isn't any slogan meant to promote some sort of behaviour, therefore needs to be clear. Surely if a slogan needs to be explained there's something wrong with it. However I think it's wrong that it has been issued before this evening. Mixed messages everywhere right now.

Dodgytrousers · 10/05/2020 10:31

The80s

Sigh, yet another one that knows better than the government or anyone else

ballsdeep · 10/05/2020 10:34

Stay alert when you're doing the conga . Stay alert when you're doing whoops upside your head .
Stay alert when you're having BBQs

It's shit. Second peak is inevitable and will probably come quite quickly.

Drivingdownthe101 · 10/05/2020 10:35

The notice to schools doesn’t necessarily have to be made in line with an official review though bathsh3ba. They can be notified at any time.

The80sweregreat · 10/05/2020 10:36

Dodgy, I've not broken any rules!
I just think that these new slogans won't be very effective.

Topseyt · 10/05/2020 10:36

But, but, but, bbbb-but, how will the curtain twitching local stasi and the dementors deal with this change?

No longer will they be able to shriek "stay the fuck at home" when they observe that their neighbours left their houses twenty times, went to the local shop and only bought an ice-cream.

user1494055864 · 10/05/2020 10:39

I love Twitter for things like this. I saw the stay alert one this morning on Twitter and I thought it was a fake joke one!!!

Stay Alert, Control the Virus, Save Lives
Stay Alert, Control the Virus, Save Lives
FirTree31 · 10/05/2020 10:39

As another poster said, what about the tracing app. This only just went to trail in Isle of Wight, and we were told this would be instrumental in moving out of lock down, now we're changing advice before this has been rolled out.

I do understand that people have to get back to work, the schools have to reopen, I agree that businesses closed when they didn't have to, but this was on the back of the advice the government gave.

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Drivingdownthe101 · 10/05/2020 10:44

But we aren’t necessarily changing advice FirTree31. The slogan may have changed, but the advice is likely to be that we remain doing what we’re doing with some limited easing of restrictions. Telling us we can exercise more than once a day and can buy plants in garden centres while abiding by social distancing isn’t ‘coming out of lockdown’.

Drivingdownthe101 · 10/05/2020 10:45

I agree that businesses closed when they didn't have to, but this was on the back of the advice the government gave

Well no... the government advice was always that if you can’t work from home then you can go out to work. People interpreted that to mean that if you’re business wasn’t essential then you should stay at home. That wasn’t what the government actually said though.

Thisdressneedspockets · 10/05/2020 10:47

Stay at home was never accurate and just led to people publicly shaming people perfectly legitimately going for walk in parks.

Boris in an early briefing uttered 'let's get this thing done'. Just an idea but perhaps we could manage without a slogan.

bathsh3ba · 10/05/2020 10:48

@Drivingdownthe101 in theory no, but in practice if we don't start opening up schools after half term it seems to me it's unlikely to happen at all. I never thought I'd see a Tory government so in thrall to the unions...

Davespecifico · 10/05/2020 10:50

Is there a new list of rules to accompany this slogan, or are we to make of it what we want to?

Drivingdownthe101 · 10/05/2020 10:51

Just an idea but perhaps we could manage without a slogan

Amen to that. All this angst over a slogan. Listen to the actual guidance, not a basic, meaningless phrase.

FirTree31 · 10/05/2020 10:51

@Drivingdownthe101. They are good points. I don't mean that I blame government completely, I don't think it's any one person's fault. And as I said before, I have mixed feelings on it all, some contradictory, part of that is because I am not knowledge about about epidemiology and infection control, partly because one of my coping strategies has been to put myself and my children in a little bubble. We live rurally, and I can only imagine that how it 'feels' in cities and different to here.

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Oneliner · 10/05/2020 10:55

Completely meaningless for a virus. What a shit show. Here comes a tsunami of a second wave.

Mimishimi · 10/05/2020 10:58

We ought to stay alert but not because of the virus.

PuppyMonkey · 10/05/2020 10:58

Said this on the other thread, but I think it basically means “we’ve given up trying to deal with this now, you’re on your own.”Confused

It could mean so many things - stay alert and monitor your symptoms carefully, stay alert and don’t take any stupid risks like leaving your home, stay alert but carry on with your normal lives now.

Releasing that logo before at least letting us hear exactly what the PM has to say in his statement is just the biggest PR crisis management failure I’ve seen in a long time tbh.

FirTree31 · 10/05/2020 11:02

Releasing that logo before at least letting us hear exactly what the PM has to say in his statement is just the biggest PR crisis management failure I’ve seen in a long time tbh*

I agree, seems Labour and NS do also! www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/10/nicola-sturgeon-leads-criticism-of-uks-new-stay-alert-coronavirus-lockdown-advice.

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acidburning · 10/05/2020 11:07

Robert Kendrick (I think that's his name) has been on the news and is saying that basically people need to go back to work now but be vigilant....slightly minimising some of the bigger barriers there!

SqidgeBum · 10/05/2020 11:08

I couldn't agree more @PuppyMonkey. It's a PR disaster. I have no idea who is making PR decisions in government but they are failing massively ..... unless of course their purpose is to confuse

FirTree31 · 10/05/2020 11:10

People need to go back to work yes, but how can a lot of people do that without schools being open. I know there have been many threads about schools so I won't go into that too much, however there are a lot of roles which cannot be done from home. I'm worried about those with dependents being a bit left behind.

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Bollss · 10/05/2020 11:12

I'm worried about those with dependents being a bit left behind

Me too. Neither of our jobs can be done from home. Without nursery we will lose one whole income, and in time probably our home. We won't be entitled to UC.

And if nursery doesn't open soon it'll likely close its doors for good which is a massive shame because it's an excellent nursery.

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