Time to move on...

[janeyloves]

I'm sick of lockdown now. My sons exams have been cancelled. The economy is going to shit. Some people I know are unable to get government help and are really struggling. And yet the nightingale hospitals are empty and my uncle who is a consultant in a&e has never been so bored at work....time to get in with life? We can't realistically all wait for a vaccine, can we?

We’re all sick of being locked down but most of us feel that other people’s lives are more important then our personal boredom for a few months. You’re an adult. Just deal with it and stop moaning.

@blue25 telling a poster who’s said she’s suicidal to “stop moaning”, really nice. Has it occurred to you that people are having worse problems in lockdown than “boredom”?

blue25

Ok then ahere's a little hypothetical question that will (hopefully) make you see how crass your response was:

You have an elderly person in your street who is at risk of covid if the street doesn't lock down. Next door you have a suicidal person who is at risk if the street only partially locks down....whose life is worth more?

trapped good question

Also, what if the suicidal person is elderly?

The problem is that the government has got us into such a fuck witted position that the only way to manage is to carry on and just accept that thousands and thousands of people will die. But also if we don’t, the economic realities will be devastating. We need to get back to work.

Also, what if the suicidal person is elderly

Good point.

"BaconandWaffles

And some people are terrified of losing their jobs and houses, incredibly lonely, struggling to work from home with young children or suicidally depressed,@TabbyMumz

So maybe think before you talk all over another thread about how great lockdown is for you."
Nope. Wont. It's a thread for everyone, not just the depressed.

@Rafflesway

My nan died in a dementia care home two weeks on Tuesday. Covid on death certificate. She hadn't even been tested!!!

"Friend on mine her dad ended up in hospital with suspected mild stroke. Routinely tested for covid and was +ve. No symptoms at all. Not even a mild temp. Sadly he had a brain bleed and died. Cause of death? Covid 19. There is no way the virus caused his death but they avoided an autopsy by putting it in the certificate."
It is becoming more well known, that covid causes clotting. This was noticed by medics in the states who have started to treat people with covid, with thrombosis drugs. It's becoming a covid phenomena.

@TabbyMumz

Well, that says a lot about you.

BaconandWaffles

"@TabbyMumz

Well, that says a lot about you."

And your comment to me says a lot about you. The world is full of people, all in different circumstances, and all at different times of their lives. Mumsnet is not just for the depressed to have a go at those that arent. Lots and lots of people will tell you they dont want lockdown to end any time soon and are actually liking it for a variety of reasons. We dont all have to shut up because you say so.

@BaconandWaffles I agree with you.

It's a bit sad that as a society we are so unable to do such a small thing such as stay at home*.
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Doesn't pay the bills though does it ?? Yet again probably talking as someone who doesn't have any financial worries and a lovely home and garden.

@Willowmartha1 read my follow on post

Here it is:

negatives are that we have lost income, are in a 2 bed flat with zero outside space (not even a deck), haven't seen friends and family for 2 months, my own family live on the other side of the world and so no chance of seeing them for a very long time, severe mental health issue as result of lockdown for my father in law and we have an autoimmune disease case plus as asthmatic in our household. Certainly not happy times but I know it could be so much worse having family members that have survived wars and lost it all.

Completely agree @janeyloves. So pleased to find a reasonable proposition.

My mother in law was airlifted out of Cyprus during the war losing absolutely everything in her life aside from her family. The puts it clearly into perspective for me.

Oh.. but I see it's becoming vitriolic. 🙄 That will reach me to RTFT. Anyway, I still agree with you @OP

@TabbyMumz The op says she’s sick of lockdown. I don’t go on to threads about people enjoying lockdown to call the posters selfish, because I think it’s nice they have a positive space to talk about what they’re enjoying, and I don’t think talking about depression, job loss, and massive economic struggles that will cripple many young people is appropriate on those threads. Perhaps you could use a similar judgment call?

"BaconandWaffles

@TabbyMumzThe op says she’s sick of lockdown. I don’t go on to threads about people enjoying lockdown to call the posters selfish, because I think it’s nice they have a positive space to talk about what they’re enjoying, and I don’t think talking about depression, job loss, and massive economic struggles that will cripple many young people is appropriate on those threads. Perhaps you could use a similar judgment call?

The op asked "is it time to move on, and should we wait for a vaccine". She is asking the general public what we think. My response is no, I'm happy the way it is. It's a valid response, which myself and many others are allowed to make if we want to...so bore off and go and pick on someone else.

And baconandwaffles.....you did jump on a post to tell them they cant think like they do....mine!!!!!

@TabbyMumz
I said a thread, not a post. But I can see there’s no point in talking to you any further. I hope you continue to enjoy your lovely lockdown with no thought for those suffering or dying.

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