‘School will have to look different from now on’....

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‘With a mix of home schooling and in-school learning’

So said Nicola Sturgeon.

So how does this work for a single parent trying to work full time from home with a full on job who needs to pay the mortgage. Literally how does this work?

People who’s companies won’t let them
Work from home need to find another job. It’s one thing if you can’t but just outright refusal, that’s not on

Posted too soon... However, ultimately it has to be personal choice. People need to weigh up the risks for themselves and their families. Everyone’s situation is different.

So, we either do away with social distancing and let the dice fall as they may or we continue to social distance and school looks different.

It's not all or nothing though is it? We don't have to do away with social distancing just because you can't do it all the time in schools. There are plenty of marginal gains to be had - no assemblies, staggered starts, one way systems, different breaks - different things will work for different buildings - plus 'encouraging' social distancing where possible ie no hugging or whatever! Then all the settings, people and places that CAN will help make up the difference.

Same goes for hospitals. Can't social distance on a ward but we try our best. We are super vigilant when we come off the ward and are in the corridors and offices. Every little bit helps.....(is that a Tesco slogan??!)

Oh yeah @veryvery I agree with this and I will be looking for a new job (likely because I'll me made redundant over others because I have a child and they don't!)

What do you think should happen with children who have behavioural difficulties and don't follow social distancing rules/one way systems? I get behaviour policies etc, but this could be life and death, so taken more seriously? Different for secondary to primary?

Not everybody is unhappy with their home situation or the division of labour within the home.

So you do you.
You homeschool.
The rest of us will go out to work, be financially independent and have our children educated by teachers in school.

You do you.
Why do you need the rest of us to homeschool too? Just do it yourself and leave the rest of us to it.

If we open schools in village hall etc who will teach them
I quit teaching because I was sick of the constant monitoring, ridiculously in depth plans and strategies, being told to produce the “right” numbers by any means necessary, and generally the amount of unnecessary paperwork. I was a good teacher. I’d be happy to go back to a village hall school where I was literally just providing an education without all the stupid targets and paperwork.

My 7 year old is really difficult for me to "teach" he hates anything I ask him to do
You can’t teach him but you expect to send him back to school and have a teacher teach him AND 30 others? Perhaps parents will now be more motivated to address their children’s problem behaviours instead of just packing them off to school and expecting teachers to handle it.

What the fuck Rhodri!?
I have a kid like that katienana, although older. It's like wading thru treacle to get him to learn anything he is not choosing to learn himself. While he struggles with concentration in school he wont get stressed in the same way AT ALL when a teacher is teaching him! It's a totally different thing. Just like, it's hard to teach your own kids to drive-thats why you hire a driving instructor!
And as for "problem behaviours" , yeah, there's been so much help and support for my kid's difficulty concentrating because it's really easy for parents to access that..oh, wait..
On the one hand we are expected to revere teachers for all their training and expertise, and in the other we are supposed to be able to teach any subject with NO TRAINING! At the same time as doing our actual jobs.Wow.

Who is expecting you to teach all the subjects with no training?

Well the school aren't teaching them most subjects, so..

To be fair there is minimal home achooling goingbon, it's home learning where they are following or not a plan produced by someone else. As parents we are not planning a long term curriculum that ensure depth and breadth covering all areas, we do not have to evaluate and assess. Mostly though we are all just doing the best we can to get through just now with minimal long term impact.
Are for expecting to revere teachers, on mums net teachers are a dirty word, a perfect scapegoat for societies failings and misfortunes, somewhat like traffic wardens.

My 7 year old is really difficult for me to "teach" he hates anything I ask him to do
You can’t teach him but you expect to send him back to school and have a teacher teach him AND 30 others? Perhaps parents will now be more motivated to address their children’s problem behaviours instead of just packing them off to school and expecting teachers to handle it.

He is difficult for ME to teach he hates anything I ask him to do. He is not like this at school at all! I have not had one word about his behaviour all year. That's why I want him to go back, he just gets on with it at school but isn't progressing at home with me. Believe me I feel bad enough already. I have loads of resources, time, am being patient, but this just isn't working for us.
Thank you Ifnotnow thats exactly it for me

You can’t teach him but you expect to send him back to school and have a teacher teach him AND 30 others? Perhaps parents will now be more motivated to address their children’s problem behaviours instead of just packing them off to school and expecting teachers to handle it.

Rhodri, I think it's just as well you are not a teacher any longer if you can't even grasp the fact that it is MUCH HARDER for parents to teach their own children. Even teachers don't find teaching their own kids very easy.

Just a thought...

Mental health is much more important than academic and curriculum coverage at the mo.

Plenty of Ed articles about. Have a google.

School under SD will be stressful. Many Children who go are finding it stressful now. Staff will be focussing on MH as per directives from DFE. Not progress and curriculum coverage.

The children whose mh is more affected by being at home should be in school. The rest will be ok.

I'm not surprised teachers get a bad name with comments like that.

Most of the posts I've seen from teachers, with the exception of a few who've been very explicit in wanting to go back, have just been wah I don't wanna go back cos what about meeeeeeee. We can't go back before a vaccine because what about meeeee.

If you've health issues yes I totally understand it and I would like to think there will be provision made for that but it's the ones who don't and are just whinging because germy kids - find a new profession would be my advice.

Same for nursery workers. I've never been so grateful that the ones who look after my child actually like children.

And before you say it "would you go into a school with thousands of children and no ppe blah blah blah"

Yes. I would.

@TrustTheGeneGenie

Go on then. Volunteer as tribute.

Foul, vile, unsympathetic. You should do brilliantly in empathising with all those kids who’ve lost loved ones.

Take your teacher bashing bike somewhere else.

Most of the posts I've seen from teachers, with the exception of a few who've been very explicit in wanting to go back, have just been wah I don't wanna go back cos what about meeeeeeee
Imo it’s more “why should I sacrifice myself for others who don’t treat me with respect or even want to be there?”

I'm not sure my volunteering would help anyone, tbh.

I do respect teachers but I don't respect the ones who give not a shit about their pupils but only about themselves.

Why are you "sacrificing" yourself?

Is everyone else still at work sacrificing themselves?

Is working in a school certain death?

Foul, vile, unsympathetic. You should do brilliantly in empathising with all those kids who’ve lost loved ones

Sorry what's that got to do with teachers not wanting to work?

Is everyone else still at work sacrificing themselves?
Everyone who’s still going to work is taking a risk for the good of the economy and to help others. Especially if in the course of their work they’re exposed to many people whilst helping them. It’s worthwhile taking that risk for people who are grateful and appreciative, but not when they don’t respect you and don’t even want to be there.

The problem is we don’t know if we are going to die from it until we’re dying/dead. If only there was some testing available 🤔

It’s worthwhile taking that risk for people who are grateful and appreciative, but not when they don’t respect you and don’t even want to be there

I think most parents right now I'm me would be wholeheartedly grateful for teachers who went in and taught our children.

What we are not grateful for is the ones who want to sit at home paid (not talking about those with health conditions etc I understand that) because our children are too germy...

I work outside the home. Happy to do so. Better than the country going bankrupt and public services consequently being slashed, no?

What do you think would happen if no one worked outside the home? How long do you think money, water and electricity would flow?

We need to get on with it. Have a look at rapid economic collapses and see just how quickly a country can collapse. That's terrifying, not this virus.

That is precisely why the UK remained open for business throughout 2 world wars - there needed to be something to return to.

We need to work or this country will economically collapse. That isn't scaremongering, it's basic maths.