This is concerning

[owlstwooting]

Significant alert in respect of Children and Paediatric shock. It has been reported that over the past three weeks, there has been a rise in the number of Children presenting with a multisystem inflammatory state requiring intensive care.

Looks legit, sadly

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I do wonder if this has been leaked to the press so parents don’t make a big fuss when it’s announced later that schools will go back in September. It’s very rare children will get this condition.

I think it means just that.

Funny how it was on all the front pages yesterday but today the retraction is at the back pages of the tabloids

It’s been in the briefing. It’s not Covid linked but some who have had it have also had Covid. It affects 20-30 a year, nhs has a page about it its the Kawasaki virus. Chris Whitty talked about it on Monday. It’s not helpful the media are trying to scare the shit out of parents when easing out of lockdown is mentioned.

Funny how it was on all the front pages yesterday but today the retraction is at the back pages of the tabloids

Retraction?

Why wasn't the 2 year old tested for Covid19 in the hospital??!!

How are we ever going to know what we are dealing with, if this is linked, and stats, if we are not testing properly.

Test, Test, Test !!

To be fair it doesn't seem that he had 'typical' symptoms of covid, so no reason why they would test as at the time there was no indication that there was possibly a link. It is a bit odd going to the papers when you don't know if it was the case anyway, but anything for a few minutes of fame- it's not like it clarified anything for anyone based on fact, just oh he might have had it. I guess just carry on taking the recommended precautions, as you would anyway seek medical help if something is astray and wait for further clarification.

It’s not helpful the media are trying to scare the shit out of parents when easing out of lockdown is mentioned.

The cynic in me would say that was the intention.

@Sazza75 Kawasaki is not a virus itself. It can be a reaction to a virus though.

Matt Hancock is a bumbling idiot. At least on this issue anyway. I mean they are supposed to be leading the country, can they not at least pay attention to such an important possible link and at least get their facts straight. He has said a few completely conflicting things on this today. I'm more confused than when I started listening to them!! We need to be made aware as soon as they know more, and it needs to be looked into in depth.

His family had Covid symptoms, and he ended up in a serious condition in hospital in March when it was well known Covid was circulating in the UK. He was hospitalised with a condition known to often be caused by immune reaction to a virus of some kind. be

He should have been tested.

How weird that people say your scaremongering- this is all over the news. Grow up idiots.

@owlstwooting I think people are bring very unkind to you. The concern about multi organ failure in children is very real and under consideration by the medical profession as to what the links are to coronavirus.

Currently numbers are small but people need to get over the complacent ‘it’s mainly old people who die.’ And it would be great if people stopped letting their children race around in parks and even supermarkets and began to understand that NOBODY is safe.

That is not scaremongering that is an actual fact. I’m a theatre sister and have friends who are paediatric nurses and yes, children and teenagers are dying. 😢

Yes, I read this in a national newspaper. I read that Matt Hancock is concerned about the cases of children being admitted to hospital with this new condition here and abroad. There is much the doctors and scientists do not know about this new virus and why the immune system in certain people goes into overdrive and causes massive inflammation. Until now the only mercy with this virus was that children were largely unaffected badly and had the very mild form of it or no symptoms but maybe the virus stays in the system longer and a few weeks after the initial infection causes the immune system to go into overdrive. I know that the Epstein Barr virus that causes Glandular Fever can have a similar affect on certain age groups immune systems because it infiltrates certain T cells. I'm not an expert but I do know certain viruses can cause this.

Thank you for posting, OP.
It is always useful to have information about rare complications, especially in children.

This is in the Guardian today:

Matt Hancock was wrong to state earlier that some children have died from the new set of serious symptoms that resemble toxic shock syndrome and is closely linked to Covid-19, it has emerged.

When asked about the condition on LBC radio this morning the health secretary said: “We have lost some children.” However, he was referring to children dying from Covid-19 and not from this new inflammatory syndrome, which is confounding and worrying doctors.

@Lincolnfield

That's so very sad.

Do you know if Children in hospital are being tested for Covid now?? I'm concerned if they are not being tested like the toddler linked above who thankfully recovered wasn't tested, then how will we know the risks..

@owlstwooting only if they show clear Covid symptoms. The problem is that multi organ failure can have so many causes including sepsis but the paediatric specialists are on the case. My specialty is vascular surgery so I only know what colleagues in paeds are saying.

@Taliya

COVID19 does affect the T cells as well. Could have something to do with it.

In the original email sent out to warn medics it was stated that some of the Children affected by the Atypical Kawasaki Syndrome had tested positive for Covid and some had tested negative but they said that some of those who tested negative had appeared to have had Covid in the recent past. Maybe it goes on affecting T cells after the PCR test for the virus is negative.

@Lincolnfield

Thanks. It is good to know the Paediatric specialists are on the case

Australia also going to be vigilant for this although they don't know yet if there is a correlation.

www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/apr/28/australian-doctors-on-alert-after-kawasaki-heart-disease-toxic-s-in-children-linked-to-covid-19

I saw Dr Ranj posted about this yesterday. I stepped away from the Internet. There is so much scary stuff happening it will drive you mad if you read it all. I won't lie. Yesterday this truly terrified me and I sobbed. Today I'm focusing on enjoying being with my kids. If they get ill I will deal with it. At the moment we are just doing as much as we can to stay safe and well. Try not to worry OP

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/boy-13-coronavirus-fights-life-21941356

I need to take your advice. I wish people would stop saying kids are immune.

this is true, was on the update earlier. small numbers. even MORE of a reason to stay at home!

I think we need to be realistic about how much more information we are going to get on this in the very short term. The virus is new, this apparent syndrome is new and there are very few cases of it which will make it difficult to establish anything with any certainty for quite some time I suspect.

The announcement tonight that they are expanding testing to include everyone in hospital will hopefully help.

I am genuinely not trying to dismiss people’s concerns but there do seem to be very few cases at present. There are around 25,000 cases of sepsis in children every year as an example. So 20 or so cases is a very small number.

The paediatric medical community is clearly on the case here and the practical advice remains the same. Children are low risk but do not hesitate to seek medical advice if concerned. In the short term I’m not sure there is much else we can do.

No one has even said kids are immune just for the most part they get it mild forms (unlike flu where they are in a danger group). And the data does back this up.

But that doesnt mean for some it is very serious and potentially fatal

9 children have died from coronvirus in the UK, only 2 had no unknown health issues. It is scary and children can catch it but it a very small number who are seriously ill. @lamppotkettle the article you posted states at the bottom of the article: “However, they maintain very few children become seriously ill. Concerned parents should contact NHS 111 for advice or 999 in an emergency.”

@Alex50 Children have been off school and social distancing for 5 weeks though. There are higher numbers of cases in adults than in Children. Personally I'm extremely concerned about this and I hope more information comes to light about any possible risks to Children.

@lamppotkettle

Poor Kid, hope he recovers soon