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How long can we carry on like this for?

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Pseudosudocrem · 18/04/2020 09:35

Anyone else starting to wonder just how long we can carry on like this before everything irrevocably falls apart?

How will we ever recover as a country?

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user1465822474 · 19/04/2020 22:52

I agree listlick. hence my post. Heavens above what a lot of really scary misinterpations and sharing of inaccurate data. As a scientist is does make me want to scream out loud.

BeijingBikini · 19/04/2020 22:52

Yes - saying economic collapse is possible and really bad is scaremongering, but "what if you, your husband, your kids, your best friend and your parents all die!!!!" is fine. Lol.

BamboozledandBefuddled · 19/04/2020 22:52

If we let this run rampant then what will happen to all the Covid cases who are very sick? Will they be left untreated? If they are treated they will overwhelm the nhs and there will not be sufficient healthcare for them or for any working age adults or children with any non Covid medical needs.

But what is happening now? The 'very sick' are the ones getting treated, unless they're deemed to be unsuitable for ventilation. The 'mild' cases - that's up to and including developing pneumonia - are being left to manage at home. And there certainly isn't sufficient non-Covid healthcare. If we're not going to treat people in early stages with oxygen intervention but just leave them at home until they turn blue and can't speak, then we might just as well lift lockdown tomorrow. I'm thoroughly sick of the blatant lie that 'the NHS is coping'. It isn't.

LoveIslandVirgin · 19/04/2020 22:53

Suck it up and expect a long haul. Wait for the science to decide.

I’m trapped with behaviourally challenges teenagers but content to sit it out.

LudaMusser · 19/04/2020 22:55

Social distancing will be a thing until a vaccine is discovered, at least that what the experts said on FiveLive last week. We could be talking 12-18 months

However, I've literally just read about another "expert" stating that a vaccine may never be discovered!

I've been off work for four weeks now although it could be longer, I've lost touch. I often don't know what day it is, it's totally irrelevant now. Everything I had planned on my calendar has been cancelled, a Sunday is just the same as a Thursday. Tomorrow is Monday, it could be Friday for all I care. It makes no difference whatsoever. I'm due back at work on June 1st, what I'm going back to I'm not sure. Everybody keeping their distance from each other I guess

ChardonnaysPetDragon · 19/04/2020 22:56

I’m trapped with behaviourally challenges teenagers but content to sit it out.

How can you afford to stick it out for as long as it takes?

Mascotte · 19/04/2020 22:58

@ChardonnaysPetDragon yes, that’s what I don’t understand? I now have no income from my job. But can’t get another job as my child is off school (my current job is good pay for few hours but only if I work) I’m
A single parent 🤷‍♀️

5zeds · 19/04/2020 23:02

Lots of people CAN work from home so they are.

BamboozledandBefuddled · 19/04/2020 23:02

Lots can't. What do they do?

Beansandcoffee · 19/04/2020 23:06

The country is divided between those who can work from home and those that can’t. If you are working from home and being paid why would you want lockdown to finish. Who wants to go back to commuting tree hours a day when we can bake cakes, make bread and work.

5zeds · 19/04/2020 23:07

Sorry I was answering how people can afford to sit it out. I think the ones who can work from home can, the ones who can get benefits to cover costs can, the rest (and it’s not clear how many this is) can’t so will I would guess have to change jobs?

alloutoffucks · 19/04/2020 23:07

@bejiing Have you read that article? They are talking about what is happening under lock down, not what happens afterwards. So yes at the moment a lot of businesses such as leisure, travel and retail are not operating. Of course that is unprecedented. After lock down things will recover.

Iriahm · 19/04/2020 23:08

We just have to wait it out. A pandemic has been well planned, many thesis’ written about etc. Over 100 years since Spanish flu pandemic wiped out millions so it’s long overdue IMO

We will remember life BC before covid-19 and AC after covid-19. If it doesn’t kill us. Vaccine is wishful thinking atm and I’m concerned at all this being rushed through with next to no testing - film I Am Legend anyone??

Government scientists have already agreed there is no herd immunity as it’s not an influenza-type disease. Despite their loud opinion on this in Feb/early March.

We just have to ride it out, make sensible plans for our families and stay at home. I’m
Sick of families out together going to tesco as a “something to do”, group cycling etc.

If this is still killing people by Christmas maybe they’ll start listening.

I have a rare genetic disease, asthma and terrified about going to shop, walking outside. But you can only be worried about the things you can control. We are both trying to work from home, homeschool kids, not end up divorced and maintain some sort of normality for our kids.

My personal opinion is there will be multiple waves in China, copied across world for at least 18mths. This isn’t supposed by be Disease X but what if it is? Mortality rate of 20-30% is horrific prospect.

We’ve destroyed this planet, maybe she’s biting back?

MaxNormal · 19/04/2020 23:08

Lots can't. What do they do?

I suggest that those with no money worries and no desire to end lockdown for years all volunteer half their income to support those that have lost theirs.
No point calling people callous for wanting not to become destitute, if you're in turn too callous to help.

5zeds · 19/04/2020 23:11

If you are working from home and being paid why would you want lockdown to finish. because you want a social life, because you can’t work as efficiently, because you want your children at school rather than locked in, because you LIKED your life before lockdown???

MaxNormal · 19/04/2020 23:11

would guess have to change jobs?

In a depression? What jobs?
Honestly I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

I should state that I'm not agitating for an immediate or early end to lockdown at all, and I've been meticulously observing all rules.
It's just when people start saying years...

Frompcat · 19/04/2020 23:11

can’t so will I would guess have to change jobs?

There won't be any jobs to change to.

BeijingBikini · 19/04/2020 23:13

the ones who can get benefits to cover costs can, the rest (and it’s not clear how many this is) can’t so will I would guess have to change jobs?

It's not that simple - the government can't afford benefits forever, and a lot of WFH jobs rely on real jobs. For example people who analyse data from retail or travel companies; if those companies aren't functioning, no data to analyse, no job. The economy is all inter-dependent. People can't get benefits if there isn't enough money coming in in taxes. And people can't go out and find jobs that aren't there.

I don't think recovery will be as easy as a "bounce back" if a lot of businesses have collapsed. Look at Debenhams, Oasis, Warehouse, and thousands of small businesses that are at risk of going under. They won't re-build in a day. People will need to open new business, and nobody will be able to do that with no savings and no loans given out. After a recession the government usually injects some money and lowers the interest rate; we've sort of exhausted these 2 avenues already.

alloutoffucks · 19/04/2020 23:13

It is early days with this virus. Even tonight on TV they were talking about a new treatment of plasma therapy. Things are changing all the time.

bemusedmoose · 19/04/2020 23:14

on a personal level I could do this forever. I prefer this new way of living, the home schooling, the more chilled timescales.

As far as the outside world goes, things have to change. They cant just open up and carry on. You cant socially distance in schools, you cant get any free space in a classroom as it is let alone keep all kids 2 m apart.

To be honest - life as it was sucked - we don't need all the crap being bought and all the shops pumping out disposable gubbins, we don't need it, it doesn't make life better, it's bad for the environment and we could do without being in shops sharing germs galore. It's nature's way of giving humans a kick in the pants and to re-evaluate life and what is important.

Yes the economy is going to suffer, but what is worse - mass death or money trouble? Because I know I would rather be scraping the barrel than loosing anyone.

BeijingBikini · 19/04/2020 23:15

If you are working from home and being paid why would you want lockdown to finish

Because some people need socialisation (not on Zoom) and a real routine outside the house in order to make their life worth living?

Frompcat · 19/04/2020 23:16

what is worse - mass death or money trouble

"Money trouble" as you call it will equal death.

5zeds · 19/04/2020 23:16

I suggest that those with no money worries and no desire to end lockdown for years all volunteer half their income to support those that have lost theirs. surely workers have always supported non-workers? Anyone working will be covering those not.

Mascotte · 19/04/2020 23:16

It’s also really bad for children even in a hapoy home.