Will schools be closed until 2022?

[JillAndJack1]

Sorry, another schools thread.
I’ve just looked at the guardian, it says social distancing may need to be maintained until 2022, if this happens then surely schools will be closed until then? When schools go back social distancing will end. Obviously nobody actually knows, but curious to hear people’s thoughts.
www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/14/coronavirus-distancing-continue-until-2022-lockdown-pandemic

They can't tell us masks are a good idea to use, as it would precipitate more panic-buying.
They're sitting on the fence so people buy them in dribs and drabs until most have them, by which time they'll decide that perhaps we should have them after all.

Bloody hell, of course they won't be shut for 2 years, and I certainly won't be sending my kids into school 7 days a week, even if it is half days. 5 is plenty. I would also love to know where all the teachers will appear from to work these ridiculous hours, isn't there a shortage of teachers as it is. Not a chance.

No they won't stay closed until then!

Social distancing in schools is pretty much impossible in the current stay 2m away from everyone sense. Children don't do that, and you can't really expect them to. It would probably be even worse mental health wise - here's your friend right in front of you, but you can't play with them in any normal way?

I'd expect to see primary schools reducing the interactions between classes - staggered breaks and lunches, no assemblies etc to try to reduce spread. Regular cleaning. Low contact pick up arrangements, possibly with staggered start and stop times.

So far there is limited evidence that children are anything like as spready with this coronavirus. Likely because even though they are disgusting little germfests, they don't seem to be nearly as symptomatic which will reduce the number of others they infect.

Older children are a bit easier in some ways (they should actually understand washing hands) but then the constant classroom switching in secondary is an issue.

The aim isn't zero spread though as a PP said, and at an overall population level children and their parents are a lower risk group.

No way will schools stay closed that long. As soon as the ‘r’ value they go on about, how many people you infect, goes below 1 and remains so for a consistent time the lockdown will be removed in stages. I suspect one of the first moves will be opening schools so the rest of the economy can get going. Hopefully by that time our testing will be up to speed and we return to the contact and trace method we used in the beginning. There would be a possible spike or spikes again and lockdowns may have to happen again. What may not happen for a longer period of time is foreign holidays due to countries possibly using quarantine methods for 2 weeks (a 2week summer hol abroad would need to be 4 as 2 of those weeks would be in quarantine) and holiday insurance that covers Covid-19.

OP what the fuck are you playing at scaring people like this?

@Growingboys you're absolutely right. MN used to be a place for some light relief. Now it's a hub of armchair experts intent on whipping up anxiety.

science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/04/14/science.abb5793

Here is the article nothing in it reads 2022 but says:

While the frequency and duration of the social distancing measures was similar between the scenarios with current and expanded critical care capacity, the epidemic concluded by July 2022 and social distancing measures could be fully relaxed by early- to mid- 2021, depending again on the degree of seasonal forcing of transmission

and

Intermittent distancing may be required into 2022 unless critical care capacity is increased substantially or a treatment or vaccine becomes available.

And bare in mind the modelling inbetween has periods of opening up. Once we open I think quite a lot will be relaxed before moving onto the next stage. There is a range that they are unsure of between spending 25-75% of our time in lockdown

So no the paper is not saying that at all. Really should have read it sooner but assumed it was tabloid rather than data driven

No. Likely to reopen September.

If schools don't open until then, teachers won't be paid...............

@Random18 but of course we will be paid whisky the schools are closed - we are still working after all...

Whilst* not whiskey although I'd work for that too 😬🤣

but seriously we just learn to live with it.

Until a vaccine is found it will probably mean lots of things have to change. Don't ask me what they are.

Whilst we can accept some disruptions to kids education in the short term (even when they do go back) it can't really go on long term.

Maybe teachers could get paid danger money.

Fuck me 2022 😂

If we don't get the economy going by then we'll all be dead anyway!
And schools being open play a big part in people people able to work

Maybe teachers could get paid danger money

Shouldn't all front line workers get danger money then?

Prefab classrooms in minus temperatures in the snow. How much would that cost to heat I wonder

Grey I'm not convinced teachers will agree to go back.

Could you imagine the outrage if nhs staff refused to work as they can't social distance?

Only teachers who are shielding shouldn't return. We are losing sight that this isn't to eradicate the virus, but to stop us all getting it as once.
For most of us it will be when, not if. That includes teachers.

Maybe teachers could get paid danger money

They should regard themselves as bloody lucky they're not being made redundant or forced to be furloughed like huge numbers of the workforce.

Lots of other workers are at risk too but don't have the gold plated pension scheme and other employment benefits enjoyed by them.

Don’t be daft although I can imagine it’s impossible to socially distance in schools. Can’t do it where I work either and there’s only 3 of us

Of course they won’t be shut until 2022.
Reopening in September at the very latest, although most of the schools round here have been told to expect a June reopening.
Schools will be one of the first things to go back, we need the kids back at school so that people can get back to work and the economy can start to be rebuilt.

FFS, she asked a question about an article in the bloody guardian, is there any need for the scaremongering screeching? She didn't write the bloody thing.

OP, the article said intermittent. It won't be nonstop sd for 2 years, it won't be achievable for one thing. My best guess is that yhey will alternate between lockdown, SD and "normal" to try to control the rate of infection so hospitals can cope.

Truth hurts. The article doesn’t sound shocking when you look at the reality of the situation:
“Under all scenarios considered, however, the models found that a one-time lockdown would result in a resurgence after restrictions are lifted”

Regardless whether the gov decides on opening schools now or later, the virus is here to stay until a vaccine is here to eradicate this bitch virus. So expect a different levels of lockdown for the foreseeable future.

Errrr no.

Lots of other workers are at risk too but don't have the gold plated pension scheme and other employment benefits enjoyed by them.

How many threads have to turn into a teacher bashing thread?

Schools will go back. There's no great risk to the majority of children. Social distancing and all these measures aren't to stop everyone getting it, it's to delay when everyone gets it and spread it out so as not to overwhelm the health services.