Will schools be closed until 2022?

[JillAndJack1]

Sorry, another schools thread.
I’ve just looked at the guardian, it says social distancing may need to be maintained until 2022, if this happens then surely schools will be closed until then? When schools go back social distancing will end. Obviously nobody actually knows, but curious to hear people’s thoughts.
www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/14/coronavirus-distancing-continue-until-2022-lockdown-pandemic

Schools can’t enforce social distancing properly. It’s physically impossible given our class sizes

CallmeAngelina

Watch out for the volunteer teaching army heading your way 😂

I’m not sure how I’m scare mongering or click bait, I’ve just had the chance read the news and saw a headline I was curious to know what others think!
I thought schools were going to be the last thing to reopen? I suppose they could start and stop again, but won’t that be very disruptive and unsettling to the children if that goes on until 2022?

No, but my DM has been asked to scenario model based on classes of 15. Whether that is mobile classrooms, utilising other spaces or only 50% of a class being in per day.

@User are you then expecting staff to work longer hours and for 7 days a week?

In theory yes you could have half the pupils in but staff already get in at about 7:30 at my school and leave at about 5:00 - some are kicked out at 6. You would gage to have 2 shifts - 9-12 and 12:15-3:13 for example and then who teaches the children on a Saturday and Sunday?

We don't have enough teachers to teach 7 days a week with no days off.

Split the kids into mornings and afternoons, lengthen the school opening hours, reduce the number of hours each child spends in schools, spread over 7 days instead of 5. Loads of options for reducing the number of children in school at any one time by "shifts", staggering start/finish etc. Yes, difficult to introduce and manage, but these are exceptional times. Schools won't return to previous normals until a vaccine comes out.

That’d be an idea for secondary! Although very difficult and possibly upsetting for primary children not to play with each other? Entire thing is giving me a headache!

Can’t social distance in schools unless you educate children in the playground, and even then it’d be a tight squeeze. How can you physically keep them 2m apart, even if they did co-operate? There is no space to do that unless you operate a rota of 50% of children at a time.
Schools will go back this year, and there will be several waves of viral infection before things settle down to the new norm. Teachers will be expected to deal with the risk.

We cant do social distancing in schools the way things are now. The way things are now will have to change.
Things may change beyond all recognition.
Why can't they?

We didn’t close schools for 2 years for polio, measles, cholera, diphtheria, TB or various flu pandemics, so it would be quite surprising if we did it for this.

I'm really hoping I can stay off until 2030 with my feet up, drinking copious amounts of wine and of course being on full pay

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@HeffalumpsCantDance

I think you've got it in one.

One of the problems with having a morning children/afternoon children split in primary is the fact that young children's attention spans vary at different points in the day.

Maths and English (arguably the 2 core subjects which we would want as a minimum for our kids) are usually taught in the morning lessons because that is when young children are most attentive.

I know from experience that getting children to concentrate past about 11am is a losing battle. After lunch is usually reserved for IT, PE, science, art, assembly, ect.

We'd have to be alternating between morning and afternoon sessions for each child to be fair.

Hope so, what with being one of these lazy bastard teachers who want to remain on full pay whilst doing fuck all to deserve it.

Surely this is a joke. Has anyone seriously not noticed this comment?

dont talk blooming stupid

"I thought schools were going to be the last thing to reopen?"

No, they would probably be one of the first, so most people can get back to work

That looks like what is being planned in France and Germany - who will likely be coming out lockdown by about 11 May

Re the original OP question:
I can't imagine the UK staying an extra 18 months in lockdown while the rest of the world has resumed work, schools and going out again

Who do you think would pay for this long stay at home
and it would take a larger army to keep all the Brits cooped up - and mostly broke - for that long

Other countries in Asia successfully operate ‘shifts’ in primary schools.

You are deluded if you think schools will be closed until 2022.

If schools stay closed for two years, what happens to all the parents who can’t go to work because they have to look after their kids? The country would be bankrupted as vast numbers of people with children would not be able to work or pay taxes. Do try and think logically.

It just won't take that long OP.

Perhaps this was the The Plan all along...

*BertNErnie

@HeffalumpsCantDance

I think you've got it in one*

I think so too. It's the only logical course of action.

Maybe back to rows of desks like throughout my schooldays,
where we each worked alone in silence, no group work, the teacher stayed at the front and talked or wrote on the board.

If extra space is needed, whip up a few prefab classrooms - also like in one of my schools

PicsInRed 😂 You*re right there !
Or the Chancellor of the Exchequer will find a cure

As long as they stay open for keyworkers. My child was one of 3 children in the whole school today. She'll be well away after 2 years with those kinds of ratios (in all seriousness I hope they're back open as soon as they can be)

Watch and learn from other countries that are weeks ahead of us, that will show us how this is likely to happen. Hopefully we can look and learn based on what is working elsewhere. I am thinking there will be some return for the summer term as this is past the prediction of peak cases. The truth is no one really knows how things will be in 3 months let alone 6 months so everything is pure speculation.