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Welcome to a group none of us want to be in.

Apologies to anyone missing or added that didn't want to be.

Please do add more, don't feel pre day 30 is a barrier.

Another one awake tonight. I've been sleeping through the night the last few nights but horrible palpitations and weird chest pains back, as well as blocked ears and sinuses. Had a few of those panic attacks where it comes out of nowhere in your sleep. Argh!

Hi mumlurker, sorry you’re going through this and awake as well. It’s truly horrible. I’ve had a lot of palpitations but mercifully not too bad tonight. Just my chest bothering me.

Hello! You're right though, things usually are worse at night so hopefully we will drop of eventually and have a better day tomorrow.

Another one with nocturnal panic attack half an hour ago. Woke up convinced I couldn't breathe and would die before getting to hospital. Leaped out of bed and was hyperventilating. Shoved an olbas oil stick up my nose, grabbed a fox's glacier mint (which then stuck to my teeth ) and dashed to the loo because I thought it might help to try and 'go'! Now back in bed with some ginger tea, reading trending threads on MN and feeling calmer. On the other hand, my ears are ringing, my sinuses are buzzing, and I've got a headache from the over-breathing

But I'm alive and I can sneeze without pulling a muscle, so must focus on the positives! Yesterday evening the back pain was bad again and I kept googling lung cancer, and I was anxious going off to sleep anyway. I just wish I knew what the hell is going on with me! Day 28 since the pain started but had 'a heavy cold' (?) for at least a week before that.

Like many of us, reckon I'll survive the night without needing an ambulance, but this is wearing me down. Think the isolation is getting to me more and more lately. I haven't been out for a week because the pain in my back/right lung makes walking outside really uncomfortable.

So fed up. I feel for anyone going through another disturbed and distressed night

Sorry there are so many non sleepers :( Yeah the palpitations make it really hard for me to sleep. I do think I would recover better if I could actually sleep in more than 30 min chunks.I find the up and down part of the recovery really hard, it's been so upsetting.
@baroqueandblue Sorry you have had a panic attack so frightening :( Absolutely no googling health related stuff! It will honestly just make you more and more anxious.
We are all going to get better it's just a really awful virus. I repeat this like a mantra when I'm struggling to cope xx

Aww glad you're feeling a bit calmer @baroqueandblue

The nocturnal panic attacks are the weirdest thing. During the day I can convince myself I'm ok, but at night I'm always imagining the worst. We will all be fine but it's just such a long road. Here's to even a few hours of respite!

@Tangledyarn thank you for your msge. Very wise, it really helped me. I definitely need to stop scaring myself with doctor Google, and I love your mantra. I need to write it on post it notes and put them up in every room in my flat!

But those palpitations you've been having sound very upsetting and anxiety-provoking, I'm sorry you're still experiencing them. Have you spoken to 111 or your GP about them? Don't know what they'd suggest but is it possible they might consider treating them as a symptom in their own right? If they could prescribe something for them then you might actually get some quality unbroken sleep at last. It has been a long illness for you so far hasn't it, you must be exhausted

Thanks @mumlurker yes not so panicky now thank goodness and about to try and get some more sleep. Hope you can too 🤞

You and Tangled are so right, it's the length of the road that is such a huge factor in how this affects us.

Just thinking that I'm now 35 days and still do not feel like I'm getting back to normal. I think GP s have to stop giving out advice that this is like flu and can take 6 weeks to recover. That is completely incorrect information and they are misleading people. Quite clearly on this thread and from many other stories symptoms are still recurring 30 plus days later. My DH is also about 35 days and started again with a temperature yesterday.

@baroqueandblue Thanks :) and hope you get some sleep. Yeah its definitely taking me a long time to get better, I think the palpitations are just part of that for me, it just feels like my body is doing strange as it tries to deal with getting better, think its part of fatigue and like the buzzing and the feeling faint and sick just my body being in a bit of a mess now.

@Casino218 Yeah I know..think its day 38 here :( think if there was some more realistic and helpful information about recovery it would help so much, I think that gps dont know to be honest, its just so new. I think the neurologist said it might take me 'weeks or months' to recover
which seemed more realistic unfortunately. I said to my partner last night that I just wish I could have caught it in 6 months time when there was more info and guidance & when I would have been more mentally prepared for what it might be like for me to catch it.

@Tangledyarn yes I'm half and half. At first I thought Ive glad I've got this thing out of the way but now im thinking what if it goes on and on. How do they know if we ever fully recover? Then I read somewhere we will only be immune for 1-2 years!!

@Casino218 I'm so sorry to hear this. I'm on the same day as you and you seemed to be doing so well. It is really awful the 2 steps forward one step back nature of this thing. Hopefully a blip for you and dh

I read we might be immune for only 3 months, if at all.

Day 24ish here and woke up at 5:30 with stabbing chest pains, a sore throat and a blocked nose. Plan to work on the sofa in between resting and do 7 laps of my galley kitchen.

@godhelpusall from where I was 2 weeks ago or even a week ago I know I've improved so I don't want to give the impression I'm not.

I know people are feeling desperate on here and I want to reassure people that 2 weeks ago I couldn't walk up the garden but now I'm going for 3 k walks every day.

With flu I was in bed for a week and couldn't get up, then a week recovering, then back to work but with this it feels that symptoms keep flaring up. I just feel it's so very different that it gives people the wrong idea to use it as a comparison.

3km walks @Casino218! That is amazing. I can barely walk round my kitchen. That is encouraging news.

@Egghead68

Are we protected for life if we get infected?
Doctors examining patients recovering from a Covid-19 infection are finding fairly high levels of neutralising antibodies in their blood. These antibodies are made by the immune system, and they coat an invading virus at specific points, blocking its ability to break into cells. “It is clear that immune responses are being mounted against Covid-19 in infected people,” says virologist Mike Skinner of Imperial College London. “And the antibodies created by that response will provide protection against future infections – but we should note that it is unlikely this protection will be for life.”
Instead, most virologists believe that immunity against Covid-19 will last only a year or two. “That is in line with other coronaviruses that infect humans,” says Skinner. “That means that even if most people do eventually become exposed to the virus, it is still likely to become endemic – which means we would see seasonal peaks of infection of this disease. We will have reached a steady state with regard to Covid-19.”
The virus will be with us for some time, in short. But could it change its virulence? Some researchers have suggested that it could become less deadly. Others have argued that it could mutate to become more lethal. Skinner is doubtful. “We have got to consider this pandemic from the virus’s position,” he says. “It is spreading round the world very nicely. It is doing OK. Change brings it no benefit.”
In the end, it will be the development and roll-out of an effective vaccine that will free us from the threat of Covid-19, Skinner says.

@Casino218 no one knows but probably not, not least because viruses mutate.

Ok thanks @Casino218 - that helps!

Does anyone else still wake up sweating? I'm not sure if it's hormonal, anxiety, a heavy duvet or this virus but I'm drenched in sweat every morning.

Does anyone have sticky eyes? I also wake up every day with my eyes slightly sticky, and feel depressed that it's not going.

Truly the gift that keeps on giving

@Casino218 - interesting article. No one really knows anything at the moment.

The common cold is another corona virus, as I understand it, and we all keep catching that.

@godhelpusall yes - sticky eyes here too.

@Egghead68 how long for? Is it a sign that the virus is still active?

I have had a return to my morning anxiety today, that depressing feeling of when will this end. There's no sunshine today too which doesn't help.

Welcome to all new posters.
Day 34 here and hopefully coming back up after another dip.

Do download and keep updating the Covid app daily.

I'm irrationally (or maybe not) furious that many on this thread seem to be similar or worse than Boris. But in contrast have almost zero medical support.
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Wiltsinbed* your damaged trachea/acid theory is interesting, might try treating myself based on that.

Morning all.

Day 34 here too. Some good news after a pretty bad 5 day ‘dip’. In those 5 days I’ve had a lot of breathlessness, palpitations, nausea, headache, muscle ache, back and chest pain and been exhausted.

BUT last night I slept quite well, 9 hours! And today I feel ok. My energy level is increased a little and although my lungs feel stiff and I have back ache I am feeling more hopeful that the dip might be failing off. Fingers crossed!

@stayathomegardener good to hear you are coming back up. What was the blip? It's so hard psychologically having a setback

@longshot That's good news! Hope you have a good day.
I'm definitely feeling very stuck, I do think the ME might be playing a big part and stopping me getting better, or at least making the progress super slow. Am really struggling to move around/walk much at all still, I'll see if I can push myself a bit more today.