Cancel summer holiday - Cornwall

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There has been a few threads recently discussing cancelling holidays abroad this summer, what are everyone’s thoughts on their UK based holidays?

I have a holiday planned with a B&B to Cornwall at the end of July, I have not heard from the owners that they are cancelling their bookings.

Has anyone had their summer breaks cancelled?

Is there anyone here from Cornwall that knows any updates regarding letting the tourists back this summer? - I know things are all based in government guidelines and how long lock down and restrictions are going on for, just interested in the locals thoughts?

So Daisy what instructions have you had from the gov re safety measures and converting your premise? The list of rules for schools is pretty lengthy. Are they going to be inspecting? One presumes there will he measures given the local demographic and the fuss re schools which are a much lower risk demographic wise.

Or maybe not.

@Alwayscheerful thank you for your post but you need to earn 50% of your income from self-employment and have 3 years books. I don't qualify unfortunately. I've luckily never been ill, just had no B&B guests!

DBML - to say you will do what you want and you don’t care if you’re welcome or not is a bit harsh. Turn this around. If you had millions flock to your local area. Stay a week at a time, then leave. Not caring due to ‘doing what they want’. Possibly leaving deadly infections behind too. How would this make you feel?? We love where we live. The Cornish are passionate about their environment. We want to protect that, and our people. You would be very welcome here once Cornwall wouldn’t be placed at risk. Surely to be welcomed would make a better visit, than doing it ‘because you’ll do what you please’

@Bi11abong don't make me laugh!!!

Some of the bigger hotels, guest houses, pubs with rooms and B&Bs, plus agency-managed cottages might be in an industry body but there must be THOUSANDS of small B&Bs, owner-run self catering cottages etc that aren't. Just think of all the thousands of properties there are on AirBnB or Booking.com

I have just three B&B rooms that we offer from an annexe to our home. I am registered with Environmental Health at my local council, but I bet there are huge numbers that aren't. I suppose we may get guidance via Environmental Health but I haven't heard anything yet. In fact. in the 5 years I've been operating they have not contacted me once (other than my initial inspection). I don't think they have anywhere near the sorts of resources to inspect premises.

I’m just not getting why children are being kept in out of schools and the very few that are going to be allowed in are going to be in pods. Why will there be cleaning ,tape and social distancing measures galore, no eating together etc but everybody can pile into holiday spots without measures. If guests can stay pod free and pile into the B&B breakfast room with zero legislation and social distancing why can’t school children?

Righto. Hope others are seeing the discomfort then for those living in these areas.

Year 3/4 and 5 children will he kept out of schools but 4 weeks later can rock up to Devon and Cornwall to mingle and frollick.

Ludicrous.

Our Cornwall self catering for 1st week in July has been cancelled

@Flossie44 I do live in an area where ‘millions flock in’ to stay. From all over the world and while the pandemic was active this included plane loads of people from Wuhan too. It’s called LONDON. Our R rate is way down and really I should be stressing people from the SW don’t travel here as we don’t want you to bring your higher levels of disease. But I recognise that we need tourism to keep our economy alive and help pay for the restaurant staff and tourist attractions and shops and public transport. And that the infection risk is now (and by summer more so) the lowest it’s been for months. I’ve had 5 close HCP colleagues ill in ITU and 2 of those died. And loads of us hospital workers caught the virus. And still I can see that we need life as we knew it to start back up.

If guests can stay pod free and pile into the B&B breakfast room with zero legislation and social distancing why can’t school children

@Bi11abong please don't get me wrong - I'm not saying that is what should happen at all. Speaking personally we have already planned how we can have guests here with absolute strict social distancing. Breakfast will be served in a hamper and left outside guest suites; I won't service guest rooms during stays; I'll allow 48 hours to change rooms over; we don't actually have any common areas (there are sitting rooms within each suite) and they all have their own "front doors" directly from outside. etc etc.

The idea of having guests sat room my kitchen table for breakfast at the moment fills me with horror. That won't be happening for a long time, will it?! Sadly.

What I am saying is that so far it is being left to individual business owners to make their own plans how to manage things safely in the future.

I think that opening the hospitality industry as early as the 4th of July is crazy, as soon as these businesses are allowed to open the government will wash their hands of them in terms of any financial help. So seaside towns like Cornwall will be stuck between avoiding the virus and losing their livelihoods which is a really tough place for them to be, particularly those small business owners

The trouble is, the guidance will almost certainly have changed by the time the school summer hols come around. This is where people with booked breaks will find it difficult.

We have booked, and mostly paid for, two weeks in Cornwall (self catering) this summer as our main holiday. Booked well before this all kicked off. Our holiday company have relaxed their rules and will contact us four weeks ahead to take the final payment/offer options dependent on the rules at the time. Realistically they will not offer a refund if travel etc is allowed and as such we would be looking at losing almost £3k if we decide to stay away for “the sake of the locals”. We’ve already lost £600 on our holiday to France next week (they’re offering vouchers not a refund so who knows if we will be able to use those in the future).

My intent is to travel if permitted and keep ourselves to ourselves. Operate as we are doing at home which means keeping a social distance, having takeaway/collecting meals from restaurant or a BBQ rather than eating out and going for walks etc at a good distance from others. If places like Heligan and Eden are open I’ll book tickets and abide by the rules.

But I’m sorry, no, I will not lose thousands of pounds. We all need to adapt.

Knob slight difference SW still waiting for its peak with a fraction of the medical services London has.Those on flights will be subjected to 2 weeks quarantine ( not sure holiday makers piling into U.K. holiday spots will be subjected to the same).

If life needs to carry on ditch the measures in schools and open them right up for all with zero social distancing and health measure rules from gov. There is no point being strict in one area and not the other.

You really think they will lift restrictions to the extent that we can all gaily travel around the country?

I’m hoping so but will follow the official advice and rules rather than slightly unstable types on mumsnet wielding pitchforks. I’m not a fan of Cornwall anyway so you can rest assured I won’t be heading that way anytime soon.

There is no point being strict in one area and not the other.

Yes there is 🙄. Every social interaction that doesn’t happen reduces the risk of spread. It isn’t that hard to comprehend.

So from 2nd July those of us with a year 1 child and a year 3 child will have 1 in school having a miserable experience in a strict pod not necessarily with friends at all times following social distancing to the letter, the year 3 child can rock off to Devon and Cornwall with mum and dad to do what they like. it’s nuts.

It is nuts and I think schools should fully reopen. This was MEANT to be a short term measure to stop the NHS being overwhelmed at the time of the tsunami of cases, not a possibly forever tactic while we all cross our fingers for a vaccine that might never come

I’m also pretty sure that the majority of those photographed enjoying the Cornwall beaches were actually...locals. It’s frigging hours from anywhere, you’d have to be pretty bloody determined to drive all the way down there for a day out at a beach!

@KnobChops that’s an entirely different conversation.

The point I was making is purely the argument ‘if Sharon can go back to school I can go to a nightclub’ which seems to be prevailing across mumsnet is nonsense as the strategy is to minimise contacts. Whether the strategy is right or not is another matter.

My son has two holidays booked in Devon and Cornwall, July and August. Both have been cancelled ☹️

Our air b and b for end of July is now switched to next summer. Places don't want tourists yet and little is open. May be different by July I suppose but decisions had to be made. May not be able to take leave anyway as work may only just have restarted properly.

We have a week booked in Devon for mid-August - s/c cottage on its own. Our owner is very keen for people to come . l’m inclined to agree with @KnobChops here: “This was MEANT to be a short term measure to stop the NHS being overwhelmed at the time of the tsunami of cases, not a possibly forever tactic while we all cross our fingers for a vaccine that might never come”

@Flossie44

Actually, I don’t want to reveal where I live and it’s not Cornwall/Devon, but I live very close to some of the most beautiful beaches in the U.K.
I know that over the summer, we are probably going to get very busy. Not Brighton or Blackpool busy as our beaches a are more remote, but tourists are expected. In fact they are needed.

I’m fine with it. I am ready to get back to my own life to be honest. I’m still holding out for my own vacation abroad from the end of July. I’m going to be careful until then, in the hope that we can fly, but after that I want my life back.

I’m happy to wear a mask and stand on 2m markers, but I’m done with hiding in the house. I largely follow rules and if the rules say I can move around/go on vacation, I’m not going to start imposing some form of limitations on myself.

I personally think alot will change in between now and July. Hopefully for the better and then everyone can enjoy a stayacation. I live in Cornwall and love it when its full of holidaymakers. I ventured to the beach last week (first time in 9 wks) it was lovely everyone social distancing plenty of room for my children to finally run around and play. However 2days later we went again totally different experience, motorhomes just parked anywhere bins overflowing, big groups of people, no social distancing we came straight home total opposite experience to the day before. I am very fearfull about what awaits our amazing ONE hospital which looks after people living in the WHOLE of cornwall. People just need to be patient and stick to the guidelines

@KnobChops no, they aren’t. The police have identified them as non locals. On our local BBC news several were interviewed and said they’d driven down from the midlands for the day to look at the sea. They said as Wales was closed they came to the SW.

My MIL in Cornwall told us that people were moving into their second homes and having their luggage couriered down separately.

The roads and smaller in the SW so lanes to beaches get clogged very quickly. The police are out in force turning people away. All very well saying you are coming anyway and sod the locals. But if the locals are SI due to symptoms, who will clean your self catering cottage, open the takeaway shops, staff the ice cream van?