Boris in ICU

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Oh Boris no 🙁

Keep on fighting Boris and come out the other side. Praying for you

@MaudBaileysGreenTurban - exactly! Unless you are the king of Saudi with a fully functioning private intensive care unit, private hospital is not where you want to be when you are acutely unwell. You need intensivist medics and anaesthetists who do the sort of thing on 1000s of patients every year. Not some “private physician” in a pin stripe suit who can take your blood pressure, give you IV vitamins, prescribe you x medications .....then refer you to the NHS when the going gets tough.

Why are people going on about private medical. Sorry to repeat myself but it will not save you. There is no cure, same as there is no vaccine.

Lots of private hospitals have donated equipment and staff. Outcome is the same for all of us.

The number of threads about people not taking a vaccine that might be available due to the 'risk'. Yeah, wonder how the luxury of a risk assessment is going for Boris' friends and family now.

Oh my goodness.

Poor Boris, poor Carrie

Come on, Boris, show the virus what’s what

For the first time since this crisis began I'm in tears. I know that lots of terrible things have happened, but I'm just suddenly feeling so sad. Poor Boris. Please get well.

The intensivists working in ITU are among the best in the world. No private physician would have the same level of expertise. It’s highly specialised environment and needs people who are experienced and skilled in that environment.
The royals would get exactly the same as a homeless person whilst on the unit.
Boris is undoubtedly very, very unwell.

Shit. He can't die

FFS. By 'better care' I don't mean everyone else gets sub par care - I meant better facilities. I'm lucky enough to never have needed ICU in my adult life, I was too young to remember the last time I was there.

I was under the impression the PM would have access to better facilities, I don't mean a fucking magic vaccine that will cure him or top secret pills that make it easier - I meant better facilities; a hospital that is less stretched and maybe has more money behind it? I don't know.

There are people on here saying disgusting things and I'm getting vilified for making a fucking mistake and thinking something different.

Threads like this remind why I don't fucking comment all that often.

Someone asked what happens if he dies? Normally it would be the same as when any PM leaves such as Theresa May, the party would decide. But given we are in the middle of a crisis a new leader might be decided by the Cabinet. This may be a temporary leader to take us through the current crisis.
Either way government will continue as before. Of course people will be shocked and mourn, but the country will continue to be run and governed.

@PipGirl404 - people don’t mean to be unkind but your posts are coming across as so ill informed as to be borderline offensive re you expecting him to get “better care”. And no amount of guards on the door and rallying troops is going to help your body fight the virus any better.

I had things go wrong in a private hospital and was then rushed to NHS. Never been so relieved in my life to be under NHS care. I just feel for his family. May dad was in ICU and it’s bad enough being there with a loved one, not being able to be with him and hearing it all over the news must be horrendous.

Politics are irrelevant here. Boris is a human, that's all that matters at this point. He has family who love him. I am wishing him and every other cv suffered the very best.

There are some people on here who should be deeply ashamed of themselves.

Cherry,

Might he not even get more consultant time than your average admission? I know all intensivists are excellent but the top guys with the most experience surely achieve the best outcomes (if only marginally)?

@PipGirl404 - sorry, don’t mean to be part of a pile on. I would agree with you if he was having elective surgery like a hernia repair or bunions done. But in critical / intensive care for something like this - NHS is by far the best place to be.

What do you mean by better facilities?

It’s understandable why people think a PM would receive better care...and people assuming that are not thick!
However, with regards to this particular virus, they cannot receive better care than standard joes because a ventilator works the same on any humans lungs as it does on the PM’s lungs, and that’s the hard truth-nothing else can be given or done @PipGirl404

@PipGirl404 There are no better facilities, the NHS has the best and everyone has access to them. Facilities don't get held back in case someone special needs them, everyone gets them.

A precaution okay so he'll be fine then..

PipGirl404 It's ok to not know things and to ask questions, but you seem to be making a lot of assumptions in your posts, which is bound to rub people up the wrong way.

@PipGirl404

I get what you mean. On a normal ward you would expect him to have more privacy, newer equipment, better food etc. Not any better medical care.

The thing is ITUs only focus is on keeping you alive. Once you are well enough to move off of ITU all those other comforts come into play but usually you are not eating and often heavily sedated. He will not be running the country from ITU, he will hopefully resume this once back on a ward.

I really hope he is ok

I guess I thought he’d have access to a drugs protocol that perhaps the rest of us wouldn’t receive due to volume limitations. I had this ridiculous notion that a combination of various medicines would sort out those important people who run governments.

There’s something about realising that there is no protection for any of us that’s extremely unsettling.

The only thing he would have better is that he would be put on a ventilator. There would be no question of assessing whether he or another patient should have the ventilator instead, he will get it.

Has Carrie made a full recovery or is she still ill?

I hope Boris makes a full recovery. It is frightening and I feel for Carrie and his family.

The country won't fall apart though. We will still have a government.

I'm not sure what the coronavirus survival rate is for those who were in ICU? All I can see is list of cases and list of deaths? Anyone know any more than that?

And what is the treatment other than a ventilator?

@PipGirl404

Maybe just take heart that our NHS might be stretched but the staff rock and if any of us or our families get sick, we'd be bloody happy to be looked after by any one of them :)