Boris in ICU

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Oh Boris no 🙁

There isn't really a private option for this level of care. Private hospitals are great if you want a hip replacement, but they don't offer luxury critical pandemic care.

Thanks to @CherryPavlova for explaining clearly.

I honestly thought what with being the person running the country he'd be in receipt of better care.

I'm not fucking deluded and I don't need to take a look at myself, it was wishful thinking and I was obviously wrong.

Fuck me the nasty side really pours out some posters on here.

Never would support the Tory party and I think Boris didn't treat his former wife and children very nice but hope he pulls through. Also feel so bad for his poor girlfriend at this awful time 😥

Did Chris Whitty have cv?!

I have can't understand the '' government not telling us the truth comments ''

Any dip into the lungs on fire 🔥 threads, show people feel better, then ill. Then better. I myself had different issue last week, I managed an hour at the computer, working, then suddenly I was so ill I was barely able to tell my colleagues and I was in bed clutching my head in agony.

Poor Boris.

Poor boris's family. The first thing you want to do is be with your loved ones, at their side...

Poor Carrie!.

I feel very sad about this news.

You don’t got to ITU “just in case” you might need ventilating. Usually people end up in ITU when they’ve already been ventilated or when they need to be ASAP.

Other breathing support treatments, like BiPap and CPAP can be done on normal ward environments, they do not require an ITU admission.

I have a feeling that we aren’t being told the whole story.

I really, really hope he recovers from this but I have a bad feeling in my stomach.

PinkSparkleUnicorns - @starrynight19 but there is private healthcare. With reduced wait lists and other privileges. I'm just curious why this wouldn't be the case for Boris with coronavirus? I wish him well and want him better.

There are very few private hospitals that offer any type of intensive care - the NHS care is world class

I have a friend who suffered serious complications following an operation at a London private hospital - they had no intensive care and merely dialed 999 for an ambulance to take him to the NHS

Chris Whitty looked as though he has lost a lot of weight during his illness, glad to see he is back on form.

@PinkSparkleUnicorns I can only assume you are lucky enough to have never seen inside a ICU unit. It’s not like that at all, there is no special-it’s just all. It makes no difference he is PM, although I appreciate why people would assume he would have ‘more or better’ but it just doesn’t work that way in ICU units.

It’s a horrible place and I shit myself when I went into one a few years ago...I was lucky that after being assessed again I was placed into HDU instead...and let me tell you, ICU unit was like staring into a nightmare movie scene, I was so thankful to not have to be sedated for days and days on end.

Chris was on tv this evening giving the briefing so he’s fine,

Broom sick of love.

That's interesting but where would the royals end up then?

Wouldn't the room be nicer at least?

As our pm is, who will be attending him? Surely the Royal (rightly or wrongly) have their own own physicians... On standby.. Wouldn't there be something similar?

Flowers, three-course menus and nicer curtains are pretty irrelevant when you're in ICU. Can we please stop with the 'ooooh he must be getting really great private care!'

He is in St Thomas', directly across the river from Westminster. An NHS hospital. The doctors and nurses there will be giving him expert world-class care - just like they give every bloody person that passes through their doors.

It is insulting to the NHS to suggest he'll be somewhere 'better' than St Thomas' ICU, frankly. Let's just hope he makes it out.

@MelbaToast - On the bright side, there are still more people that come out of ICU than not and he's still youngish and heslthy (except for a bit of extra body fat).

This is not the case with Covid-19 which turns your lungs into melted crisp bags (for those who remember holding them
Up to the fireplace so they shrunk right down).

50 - 50 survival after ventilation with Covid-19 is optimistic. 50% survival at commencement of invasive ventilation dropping to around 30% after 7 days on a ventilator. I’m hoping for the best but genuinely expecting the worst.

Just watched the vid of him standing on the steps clapping on Thursday night. Imagine if that was your Dad or your brother. Come in out of the bloody cold and get back in bed!

Fight it Boris

Get well soon Boris.

I am shocked - I like the guy - he has his faults but he is not evil - he speaks in a way that makes you listen and I do believe that has helped get the message across - I wondered during the electionhow safe the NHS would be in his hands and I feel totally confident it is safe and won’t be flogged off the the states

I am unable to concentrate I feel sick with worry - he is very much the man we need for this crisis and would be devastated should things can a turn for the very worse

Wishing you the very best

Thanks MrsJonesAndMe

Didn't get to see it. That's a relief.

Private care in the UK for ICU is very limited, and by its nature because it doesn't have as much experience of cases, isn't necessarily 'the best'. Private hospitals frequently transfer very seriously ill patients to the NHS because they don't have the capability to deal with the most severe cases to the highest standard. This transfer also involves a degree of risk.

If I wanted the best care in this country at ICU level I would NOT want to go to a hospital that wasn't staffed by NHS doctors and nurses and wasn't on the same site as an NHS ICU.

The reality with covid-19 is that no one really knows what 'the best' care is. There isn't enough research and no one knows the best way to treat a patient. Hoping for the best on the basis of probabilities is the most any doctor can offer.

There is no clinical pathway which is recommended.

That means there is a fairly level playfield in terms of care once you enter the ICU doors.

Everyone is a guinea pig.

They will have done as much as possible in no.10 and could have chucked huge amounts of money at 1:1 care for him, portable oxygen, a cpap machine etc. He clearly reached a point where that wasn’t feasible or safe anymore yesterday.

I think df was in icu... After major heart surgery?

Very very scary...

I honestly thought what with being the person running the country he'd be in receipt of better care

'Better care' where?! What does that even mean?

Seriously. When you are seriously, dangerously ill, a private hospital is NOT 'better'.

In normal circumstances, if you are in a private hospital (for routine surgery, for example) and then deteriorate you will be blue lighted to the nearest NHS emergency facility.

I’m sure they will try and find him a private cubicle in St Thomas’, but beyond that, everyone will be receiving the highest level of care already, and there is no higher than highest. In more usual times, everyone with a contagious illness or with immune complications would get a private cubicle.

ICU is a place like no other. Hopefully most of us will never need it.

PipGirl404 I know many ITU staff. I honestly can’t think of one who would give less than their best to any patient, regardless of status. There is no ‘better care’ than that given by our NHS teams to those in greatest need.

I honestly thought what with being the person running the country he'd be in receipt of better care

You've just done it again! Can you really not see that you're implying that NHS staff don't give 100% to every patient? For Boris to be receiving better care everyone else must be getting less than the best efforts of the medical staff.

Whats with people thinking he is getting private care? He is a London NHS hospital.