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Why are so many salivating over the prospect of a harsher lockdown...

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Greysparkles · 05/04/2020 18:22

Just that really?
Why?!
When we haven't even seen the benifits of the lockdown we have now? We were told we would see results in 2-4 weeks.... Its been 13days!

Could we all just calm down a bit and stop bitching about Carol in tesco who bought a couple of cucumbers Hmm

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mencken · 05/04/2020 18:24

who said we would see results that quickly? As someone else pointed out, it is two weeks since the massed stupidity of mother's day and the cases are rocketing, although due to the exponential nature they would anyway.

no-one wants a firmer lockdown, if the fuckwits obeyed the one we have now that could well do the trick.

LavenderQuartz · 05/04/2020 18:27

i would like further lockdown as i would like my relatives to remain alive

as it stands, its clear, too many people are not listening

we can't have 600+ people dying daily

maybelou · 05/04/2020 18:27

Yeah we haven't seen the benefit of lockdown yet as people keep flouting it, which is why people want a stricter lockdown 🙄

nellodee · 05/04/2020 18:28

No-one's salivating. I think a lot of people want to make sure that R0 is getting below 1 so we can get a handle on the amount of cases we have and hopefully start to think about using testing and technology to facilitate an easing of restrictions. I think actually, the people who want a tighter lockdown, probably also think that will eventually mean a shorter lockdown.

FlibbertyGiblets · 05/04/2020 18:31

I saw my first RL facebook group "Street-Shaming for Not Clapping Enthusiastically Enough on Thursday" today. Same people will be hand rubbing at more reduction.

fellyjish · 05/04/2020 18:32

I would like a stricter lockdown - or current rules to be more strictly enforced. We are sticking to the guidelines, going out maybe once a week for food other than that just out for exercise but our neighbours are not!

They're still having mates round, popping to the shop for bits and pieces multiple times a day, in and out of each other's houses and gardens, and out for walks together!

I would dearly love to see my parents and my in-laws sooner rather than later, and until people start listening and staying in then it's not going to happen!!

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Greysparkles · 05/04/2020 18:32

The time between catching the infection and showing symptoms is 5-14 days. Then around 5 days before it gets bad enough for hospital admission. Then you do not die straight away, that could take days/weeks

The people we are seeing die now got infected most likely 4+ weeks ago.

So those hoping to see the benefits of the lockdown and social distancing we have now are being impatient

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FfsCorona · 05/04/2020 18:32

Because people are scared. They see others flouting the rules and want more enforcement, pretty understandable

DarnedSocks · 05/04/2020 18:34

I don't see anyone salivating. A few overzealous people but mostly I see people horrified that people are completely ignoring lockdown, putting many lives at risk, and increasing the pressure on an already overburdened NHS. People are scared for their lives and the lives of their loved ones. We want to protect the more vulnerable, as any civilised society would do. Doctors and nurses are dying just doing their job. Because of selfish idiots breaking the rules we all face complete lockdown with the prospect of no daily exercise. All people actually want is for lockdown rules to be adhered to. Or it won't work. That means no picnicking in parks in groups, no day trips, no visiting multiple friends and family, no parties.

Eggcited · 05/04/2020 18:34

we haven't seen the benefit of lockdown yet as people keep flouting it

I agree. I don't want further restrictions, I just want people to follow the restrictions we already have in place.

I saw my first RL facebook group "Street-Shaming for Not Clapping Enthusiastically Enough on Thursday" today.

I'm not sure what this has to do with lockdown.

Soph7777 · 05/04/2020 18:36

Because it's hard and very challenging that's why.

I don't see why you feel it needs to be any stricter?

We haven't seen the effects of the current lockdown yet as they keep saying so why on earth do you think more measures are a good thing?

It's reasonable as it is for now.

Itsjustthesame · 05/04/2020 18:37

I’m torn to be honest. The though of a harsher lockdown is awful. I have family in Italy and it sounds awful. Cannot leave your “borough” (and they are small), paperwork to go out to certain places etc.

However having seen a group of men playing football in a field behind my home today and photos from my local park etc looking absolutely jam packed I fear it may the only way forward.

I do agree that there are some who seemed to be calling for stricter measures even before wed seen the idiocy of this weekend - with no apparent reason (at the time).

I imagine that the government has many behaviourists on this though - and wait until a majority of the public are calling for the measures themselves - rather than before - a bit like the management theory of getting someone to think your idea is their own.

Figgygal · 05/04/2020 18:42

I absolutely hate the sound of it or that it would be necessary but if it is a solution or it gets us out of the situation quicker then I will accept it

LavenderQuartz · 05/04/2020 18:44

yes just watched the news....people out everywhere

ToCaden · 05/04/2020 18:46

I'd be happier if the rules were more strictly enforced. Hundreds of thousands of office workers are still commuting to the office. I know because I'm one of them. It was only at the beginning of this week that they finally started the process of ordering some laptops for some workers, but only for a tiny percentage of staff. People at work feel they are being treated as dispensable as it is clearly possible for us to all work at home.

Tfoot75 · 05/04/2020 18:47

The people who are flouting the rules now will continue to flout them whatever the change. People are just quite sanctimonious I think. My residential estate is not going to be observed by police or the military whatever the change in the rules.

Anyway, the data from the last few days suggested that our curve has already started to flatten (to be clear, not a reduction in the numbers, but a significant slow down in the rate of increase). On last weeks trajectory, at least 900 would have died today but actually there were only 600. This will be the impact of the social distancing announced 3 weeks ago rather than the lockdown.

youkiddingme · 05/04/2020 18:56

Why the goady title?
If people would just follow the rules properly without trying to stretch the meaning of them beyond the obvious intention of what is trying to be achieved we wouldn't need a harsher lockdown.
I don't think anyone is counting Carol's cucumbers, but if they see Carol going out shopping 3 times a day to buy the blasted things it is blatently obvious Carol is taking the piss, putting other people at risk unneccesserily, and is one of the main reason's we will end up losing what little freedom we have.
It's not being sanctimonious to point out the Carol is being a twat if that is the case.

AnyFucker · 05/04/2020 19:01

It wouldn't make any difference to me. I go to work, come home, stay in. Shop once a week. That is it.

Sparklingbrook · 05/04/2020 19:07

I don't know about salivating that's a strange way to describe it.

Some people just don't understand what the lockdown means. So many threads on MN asking can I do this or that when the answer is no.
Then seeing the pictures of the sunbathers and the stories of parties and BBQS.

Maybe a harsher lockdown will be the only thing those people will understand.

Purpleclownsuit · 05/04/2020 19:08

When we haven't even seen the benifits of the lockdown we have now? We were told we would see results in 2-4 weeks.... Its been 13days!

We won’t ever see results when the majority are still living life as normal though, will we?

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Greysparkles · 05/04/2020 19:11

We won’t ever see results when the majority are still living life as normal though, will we?

The majority? Really?
Or is it just a minority

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HairyHoraceHaggis · 05/04/2020 19:14

Instead of pointing the finger in the direction of the Government, and blaming them for the state of the NHS or the lack of ventilators, the general public seem to be busy counting the cars that pass their houses, and blaming others for a virus.

I think a full lockdown was intended all along - but it is beneficial to the Government if we blame one another. A bit of propaganda through the press showing the small percentage of people who “flouted the rules” and they can use that as the justification for lock down. Again, people will be so busy blaming each other that they will not be looking in the correct direction.

My local hospital was on black alert well BEFORE this started. It is not the fault of the general public Hmm

Spodge · 05/04/2020 19:15

What is the point of ever increasing lockdown when the existing rules aren't enforced? There will always be a minority flouting the rules. They need to be dealt with.

And I am shocked by the number of people begging for harsher measures and desperate to tattle on someone daring to buy what they in their mighty wisdom consider non-essential.

LavenderQuartz · 05/04/2020 19:18

its the majority going about as normal judging by what ive seen at work!!

GoldenOmber · 05/04/2020 19:19

We won’t ever see results when the majority are still living life as normal though, will we?

They’re not.