Why are so many salivating over the prospect of a harsher lockdown...

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Just that really?
Why?!
When we haven't even seen the benifits of the lockdown we have now? We were told we would see results in 2-4 weeks.... Its been 13days!

Could we all just calm down a bit and stop bitching about Carol in tesco who bought a couple of cucumbers

We were told we would see results in 2-4 weeks.... Its been 13days! - Exactly, not yet 2 weeks. By your reckoning we were told 2 - 4 weeks. So why do you find it so hard to accept that we are only just getting to the stage where we might see a difference?

People are being stupid and going out. Lying on beaches and in parks in groups. Cycling through villages in groups of 10 - 20. Going to the shops more often than necessary. Visiting friends.

Unless and until people can adhere to simple guidelines, the government is going to have no choice but to enforce a stricter lockdown. It's a shame for those of us sticking to it already, but needs must to allow for the stupid and selfish amongst us.

My neighbour (jokingly) berated me for not coming out my front door to clap last Thursday.

At least I think she was joking...

I don't think anyone is salivating over a lockdown, but it does seem that a lot of people are not following the rules. Having a tighter lockdown means keeping more people safe and that's all I care about, no matter how bored I get.

or current rules to be more strictly enforced.
I think this is the answer .

I’m not salivating over a harsher lockdown but I want to see my mom and what people are not understanding is the longer people fucking act like they are above the rules the longer I don’t get to see my mom. The longer people act they are immune from the rules the longer the poor children who come to the school I work at have to live in unsafe conditions with no food and abusive parents and not come to their safe space and the longer people fucking ignore this like they are above getting the virus the longer everyone is affected in one way or another.
So op I don’t think anyone is salivating over a harsher lockdown, I think people want this over and done with for a million and one reasons so ur nasty shit original post is totally uncalled for.

I am worried that a tighter lockdown would make looking after my vulnerable DM more difficult. Although not diagnosed yet she has significant memory loss. I do her shopping and talk to her through the kitchen window, I am her lifeline. Selfish idiots out sunbathing this weekend will be fully responsible for anything happening to her if I can’t go round, but blissfully unaware.

I think what I’m finding jarring is that lots of people appear to have little empathy for those for whom a tougher lockdown would be hellish. I am finding it tough hearing some of my own friends making it sound like it’s nothing. I genuinely can’t imagine how tough lockdown would be with no garden, or worse still, in a situation where someone is suffering abuse.

Yanbu op half the country are essential workers and still using public transport So we are not really in lockdown at least for many people

There are people flouting the 'rules' but the majority are complying. That's why Matt Hancock - who presumably is privy to more reliable information than the MN curtain twitching Stasi - has said there is no plan to introduce stricter regulations. The graphs they showed at the press briefing made in clear that traffic and visits to public places have dramatically reduced in the past 2 weeks. That's a much better indication that the current partial lockdown is working than the outraged comments from someone on MN who saw her neighbour leaving home twice one day last week.

No thanks. This is tough enough

That's nice to make out people are enjoying it. It's horrific and we don't want to people we love to die... but go on then be one more twat starting a stupid fucking pointless thread to annoy people.

I would feel aggrieved if , because of the actions of city-dwellers going en masse to the parks, coast and second-homes, we were stopped from exercising in a solitary way in the local countryside.

My husband's chemo is at risk of being cancelled if our local NHS becomes overwhelmed.

People clearly don't have the common sense to follow the spirit as well as the letter of the rules so I hope they are tightened.

People clearly don't have the common sense to follow the spirit as well as the letter of the rules so I hope they are tightened.*

Exactly.

Don't think anyone is salivating about a harsher lockdown.
Suggesting that the one we have now actually be enforced, yes.
Suggesting that a harsher lockdown might be easier to police and slow the rate of infection, yes.
The only thing I see people salivating over is how they can interpret, bend or break the current rules so they feel like they're rebellious and not doing what they're told. Well you know what, the virus does not really give a flying fuck if you technically stuck to the rules or not, or if you interpreted them with 'common sense' in your opinion. If you're in the same place as it, then you risk getting infected. To stay away from places it's likely to be, except for necessity, is lowering that risk.
Healthcare workers are usually the biggest casualties in these things, I have 4 family members working with positive cases, the less people that get it, the less people they have to deal with and the less likely they are to also get it. I'd quite like to see said family members again, and pretty sure they'd like to live.
I keep seeing as well how the people who are reporting neighbours, or calling from tighter lockdown have no empathy for those who a harsher lockdown would affect, but what about the ones breaking the one we have now knowing fine well that they're risking not only the virus and spreading it, but the government placing harsher rules in place? Why is it ok for them to carry on doing what they're doing and risk a harsher lockdown, affecting many, many people negatively, yet those who point out this behaviour and ask for it to be addressed are the ones lacking empathy?

It's fucking hard, it's taking it's toll on the mental health of so many people, I'm one of them. I'm pretty sure that losing a family member would also negatively affect my mental health, never mind 4 of them. We all want this to be over, it's not an opportunity for those who think they're edgy and cool to rebel the system and show they'll not be told what to do.

From what I’ve seen, from a distance, many people in the UK have fallen into two groups through all this - there’s a group of people who think the rules don’t apply to them it the rules are open to their own interpretation and you will Heber change their mindset (we’ve seen plenty of example on this site - neighbors inviting friends for a barbecue, groups of lads playing football, crowded parks, etc) and some have taken it upon themselves to police others and feel that you should all be living in something like a POW camp. I’ve seen people on here reporting back that someone bought 2 cucumbers, another person saying that bread and milk are not essential, spying on neighbors for having a weekly Sainsbury delivery, checking who is sending children to school, etc.

We are about to enter week 5 of an 8.5 week lockdown from March 6 to May 4. Not once has anyone commented on people’s shopping, social activities, etc. There have been no restrictions on grocery shopping here. We have simply been told we can ship for groceries and medically needed items only. Nothing about “essential groceries”. In my opinion the “essential” in that phrase is redundant. All groceries are essential. We haven’t had the panic buying, the shops are well-stocked and nobody would even look twice if all you had was 2 cucumbers. People are missing the point. Shopping for essentials only is not to ration what you eat, but to reduce the number of “popping to the shops” trips that you make.

We are also encouraged to go to the beach and to drive to places for recreation (forests, etc). I have found by having rules like this they have been much easier for everyone to follow, particularly people who are used to being in one of the most free countries on earth. No anarchy here. That’s what will happen in the UK if the lockdown is made stricter.

Our death rate per million is less than half that of the UK. In the county I live in, which is half the size of Northern Ireland, we have had only 2 cases. And no deaths. I believe our sensible approach to this - stay home, but don’t imprison yourself, take precautions when you are out - has played a part in this. You don’t need a stricter lockdown. You need a sensible lockdown. You need people to stop spying on each other. You need the police to stop feeling like it’s a police state and they can fine you for driving because you are bored. Nothing wrong with driving if it helps you feel normal. We go for a drive every weekend.

I don’t know OP it’s weird. It seems like some people revel in drama and seem to enjoy or need to adopt a negative approach. I already see elements of the “isolation olympics” on here where people seem to be bragging about how little they can go out (even though I’ve walk a day is allowed). I’ve also noticed that unless you adopt a worse case scenario and don’t predict lockdown for at least a year you get accused of “not taking it seriously”. It’s bizarre.

From what I’ve seen, from a distance, many people in the UK have fallen into two groups through all this - there’s a group of people who think the rules don’t apply to them it the rules are open to their own interpretation and you will Heber change their mindset (we’ve seen plenty of example on this site - neighbors inviting friends for a barbecue, groups of lads playing football, crowded parks, etc) and some have taken it upon themselves to police others and feel that you should all be living in something like a POW camp.

Exactly! It’s weird isn’t it? I’ve noticed this too. Very little middle ground. Maybe it’s just MN though as in real life I see much more balanced sensible opinions

I'm all for a full lockdown if it solved it BUT IT DOESN'T. There no cure no vacinaction we need a stead flow of infections that we can manage.
Full lockdown you are back to square one as soon as lockdown stopped . You can't lock people down forever the virus is still there waiting . vaccines and cure years off

If we did have a full lockdown the same people that aren't taking any notice of the current rules will surely take no notice of lockdown either? Those of us that are doing the right thing will end up in full lockdown whilst they all carry on as they have been doing.

I don't think people actually want a stricter lock down. I.e. they're not going to enjoy it... but many feel it's inevitable if people keep flouting the rules.

I personally would like to see the police taking a firmer hand with people who aren't complying with the current lock down. This policing with consent nonsense isn't going to get us anywhere with the small minority of dick heads who think they can do what they want .

These people only understand the language of force. So high fines (think £1000) and arrests for repeat offenders.

Completely agree - people are nuts either that or saying it because others are saying it so feel they fit in then 🙄

Because a lot of people like the idea of an authoritarian state..see how many people love China and the calls of racist if you maybe suggest there are elements of the authoratian regime there that are not great.

The single thing that frightens me most here is how soon we have turned on our fellow man, how much we love to insult mr so and so down the road for jogging because really he caused covid 19 single handily!

I come to the conclusion that man will always do more harm to man then any virus ever could!..I hope I am proved wrong but as so many mumnettes whip themselves up into a froth over us not following the practices of a regimen which has allegedly introduced internment camps for Muslims I wonder if we really know where the real dangers may ultimately lie!

I think a lot of people like the idea of everyone following a set of fairly basic rules.

I keep seeing posts from our local neighbourhood FB group about bringing in the army with water canons, let’s bring in snipers etc. I think there are a lot more extreme thinkers than we would imagine out there.