Why is it so hard for people to stay at home

[pissedoffretailworker]

I have just got home from work. It has been manic today! People have queued for hours to come buy crap! I feel like people just aren't listening and are just freely out shopping for all these goods that are not essential. Browsing for over an hour in store and buying goods that we really shouldn't be selling.
This board and my other social media are full of people justifying their need to go buy gardening supplies or paint or walk their dog 6 times a day. As if they are special 🤷🏻‍♀️
Mental health is cited as a reason for people to continue to be selfish and put their own desires first instead of doing what is needed to help the nhs and protect the vulnerable.
I am feeling more and more angry at these people. I wish I could stay at home and keep my children safe. I certainly wouldn't be taking them to the shops to buy crap. My kids have not left the house other than to play in the garden since the 9th of March. I only go to work. I'm lucky in that I have a reoccurring delivery slot from a supermarket and have done for a long time so don't need to go shopping. I know I'm the grand scheme of things I'm better off than some people but I'm so stressed by other people's lack of care. What will it take to get these people to listen?

Went to Tesco for the first time on Friday on three weeks. The only 'out I've had is dog walking and garden (yes, that makes me lucky). Can no longer get delivery slots so off I went. Queued, got waved in past the sign which instructed only one family member to be in store and Lo there were multiple girlfriends, boyfriends, partners, whatever, swanning around together. I'm no mathematician but surely this increases risk? As well as being a sign of some folk thinking they're special. And no they weren't carers. I live in a small town and recognised a lot of folk. Shopping is not now a leisure activity.

This board and my other social media are full of people justifying their need to go buy gardening supplies or paint or walk their dog 6 times a day.
If the Govt allow shops to open that sell these things then you cannot blame people for buying them.

On another note though we drove past a garden centre yesterday which appeared to be open. (A few vehicles in the car park, people using the separate entrance and exits). I was shocked as I thought they weren't allowed to open.

We picked up 2 picture frames while doing a big shop in tesco the other day. We went there when we normally go to sainsbury's because my monthly prescription get sent there. We shopped for 2 weeks. I really can't see how buying 2 frames while there is a problem. So it's not reasonable to say the homewear section in a supermarket should be closed off.

Mumsnet is full of people claiming no on but them is following social distancing and the lockdown. That's not what I'm seeing. It's also not what evidence of road use etc is saying. Feel like people just live something to hand wring about. Most of us are just getting on with the rules and trying not to die.

I don't consider myself lucky to still be working. If I socially distance myself as the government advice people with certain health conditions to do (of which I have 3!) I would receive no pay. How am I meant to keep my house and feed my children with zero income? I have an older teen which is the only reason I am able to keep working as they are providing childcare for my younger children. My post is not about how lucky I am or how hard other people have it, I genuinely don't get people's refusal to stay at home when they can.

My point was that because you are still getting out every day you are not feeling the effects of being cooped up, and therefore can't understand why people who are cooped up are buying things you deem non essential while they can. They are trying to stay sane and busy for as long as they can. You don't have that problem yet.

My kids have a large garden with play equipment they have a trampoline, a swing, a slide, water and sand play tables room to use their scooters and bikes and a large grassy area to run around. They are much safer there than the park

This kind of explains why you don't get it. Why people are trying to make their homes and gardens nicer spaces. You are extremely privileged in this situation with your huge garden and weekly delivery slot. Try having a bit of empathy.

You've read all the posts on here and still don't get it?

How would you manage on zero income?

Same way as millions of people are having to manage right now. You do realise that millions of people have lost their jobs, right? And have no income?

You’d better hope that the government doesn’t recategorise your shop to a non essential one. You’d better hope that people keep flocking to your shop to buy what they’re buying otherwise you could find yourself furloughed at best, laid off at worst.

You do realise don’t you, how lucky you are to still be out there with a largely unchanged life and earning money?

Surely in your place of work peoe buying non essential items is what's paying your rent and feeding your children

What will it take to get these people to listen?

It would need to be law. Everyone that poo-pooed the point about the law being different to the government's requests (different threads) can see now why the distinction is so important.

The law is king. Until something is forbidden by law people are allowed to do it. If they are allowed, they will. If you request they don't, then some will grant that request and some will not.

It's no good the law saying one thing and society expecting something different if you are aiming for total compliance because it won't happen.

Why wouldn't you go in your own garden? I'm mystified, there's no need to be a martyr

Come on OP, tell us exactly what retailer you work for.
It's large and was heaving busy with lots of customers so lots of staff - we won't know who you are. You make it sound like a national chain so you identifying the chain name that is so busy that we all want to avoid -- would not identify you at all.

Sounds like Home Bargains or B & M

Maybe it’s Wilko but ours is quite empty

Oh yes forgot about Wilko.

I see the Chief Medical Officer for Scotland has gone to her second home this weekend

www.google.com/amp/s/www.scotsman.com/news/politics/scottish-chief-medical-officer-catherine-calderwood-flouts-lockdown-rules-visiting-second-home-2529656%3famp

Callo I saw this too. The Scottish government’s response is equally disgraceful. Oh she wasn’t going to be there for a while so she went to check on it. Is this an acceptable excuse now for everyone that fancies a weekend checking on caravans or holiday properties?! Outrageous. She should be sacked. Do as I say not as I do arrogant woman.

You are not in a position to tell people what is and isn’t essential shopping.

This thread is full of wannabe Blockwarts.

I have only been outside in the garden in the last 3 weeks. DH went to Asda yesterday as we needed a few items.

He said there were lots of couples and quite a few families. Why? Why do people need to go shopping in pairs? Means that the queue moves slower because 2 people are going in rather than 1. Even worse when it's a family with 1,2, 3 etc children.

I am sick of some (far too many) people's selfish stupidity. Loads went to beaches, parks etc yesterday and, as today is going to be even warmer, it is certain there will be even more out today.

Op - why haven't you let your kids out of the house for a few weeks before the lockdown was announced? You sound similar to my cousin who took the kids out of school 4wweks ago and hasn't let them go outside since. Martyrdom and poor kids imo

I understand working in retail is hard but count your blessings that you have a job. I do, even though I traipse to the office twice a week and do so using public transport

Yes, MH is important. Mine is suffering. For all the Watts app and phone calls, it's not the same as seeing others in person. I've not seen my parents in ages. My birthday is tomorrow and I was meant to be on holiday which obs hadn't happened. Work is stressful and am trying to wfh without the proper equipment. We've been told to stay at home with no end date in site, which even prisoners serving a sentence get. Many are struggling wfh while dealing with screeching kids. This had turned my life on its head. Just simple things like having a priper work routine, seeing my colleagues and service users, giung for coffees and meals out, goung to na meetings - all gone. So yes I'll buy wine and colouring books in the ship..

And I'm going to browse the store to try and get what I want, despite asdas bakery section having took a nosedive. Also, wtf isn't essential? Technically nothing is essential bar veg. Are you wanting us all to spend quarantine miserable as sin, or more miserable thah we already are?

Its not a popular opinion btw but I think the MH and economic concerns caused by lockdown might be worse reaching than the deaths. The deaths are awful of course. Services, including MH services are cut to the bone. Professionals working with service users have huge caseloads and are struggling. The economic consequences of this will be absolutely devastating. It's not as simple as just shutting the country down for months on end. We need something to return to. This realistically can't carry on until a vaccine is developed which will take a Yr plus. People will rebel for a start. And the government hadn't enough money to pay all furloughed and self employed for that long . There has to at some point, be a decision made and the potential consequences of loss of life and the economy, weighed up. Sad but true.

It seems like you don't like customers very much. I understand customers can be twats at times and yes of course you're at risk. But let's not forget that retail workers had a choice, and 2 months ago were quite happy choosing to work in this area.

Oh stop moaning

YOU have a huge garden with a lot of equipment for your kids
YOU have a job that you are whinging about (not everyone is so lucky)
YOU I imagine do not live in a situation of DV
YOU have your shopping delivered regularly

ffs

@WhentheRabbitsWentWild that's just as selfish an attitude though - you have a shit set up, isolation is harder for you, therefore it's acceptable for you to break the rules and spread the virus killing millions of people? OK then...

We've gone out to go food shopping and walking. Both are allowed. We've bought plants and gardening supplies with our weekly shop but we intend to grow food! Not all of us want to Netflicks and chill I'm afraid.

If we were going to a friends to have a haircut, inviting friends around for tea or having a big meet up in the park that would be different.

By the way, you have a large garden with play equipmemt already insitu - lucky you! I live in a flat with two kids and a tiny bit of outside space which i hope to grow a bit of food on - to eat, brighten it up as a nice place for them to play and educate my kids with. Does the buying of a few plants with my weekly shop make sense now?

I don't consider myself lucky to still be working. If I socially distance myself as the government advice people with certain health conditions to do (of which I have 3!) I would receive no pay. How am I meant to keep my house and feed my children with zero income

Then don’t complain that people are out everyday.

You aren’t willing to give up work to stay home so don’t judge others who have been forced to stay at home with no work and no pay.

Answer me this.

How am I supposed to keep our house and feed my children on zero income.

Add to that I have a Dp who is going slowly round the bend adhering to these rules.

Maybe the people that you see regularly are lonely and need some sort of interaction with another human being .

Yes there might be some who are not practicing social distancing but for some who are abiding by the 2m rule it is to save their mental health