The young healthy people who are dying..

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Do you think that those who died and were said to have been young, fit and healthy with no underlying health issues, probably did have something underlying but didn't know about it?

Or do healthy people really just die from things like this?

We also don't know how many of those who had "underlying problems" were de-prioritised if there was a shortage of ventilators.

None in the UK Yogalite. Not yet anyway.

@Noooblerooble There was a woman who sadly died last week. The Mail were writing she'd had 'no underlying health conditions' but photos of her showed her to be a good 20 stone. It's slightly different in that she wasn't young and she might have felt well enough but it is far too simplistic to have said she had no underlying conditions

I have also noticed that in every one of the news stories where the people are described as having no co-morbidities, the photos ALWAYS show that they are extremely overweight.

Obesity is a MASSIVE risk factor for complications/severe case of COVID-19.

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They shouldnt be headlining stating that these people died OF CV. Yes, I saw the women last week and although her family were saying she didnt have any underlying health issues clearly she was very overweight and I guess it really doesnt help when you are trying to fight the virus

I think there was a suggestion that one of the young people this week hadn't sought medical help when they should have. After discussing it in the briefing there was a reminder that all people with breathing difficulties should seek help.

There are quite a few older people who have survived this though. A 104 year old man in the US recently. A 103 year old woman in Iran. It seems to be the luck of the draw, genetics, strength of immune system, exposure to viral load? This is what makes it more terrifying.

Healthy children and younger adults also die of the flu.

Its funny, its only when you dig into the story that you find all is not as it seems. My local Waitrose according to the media says that they have screens to protect the staff and latex gloves for all. They certainly dont....I went yesterday and the cashier told me that they kept running out of gloves every time they went on shift and the screens were 'on order'!

People saying about 70% of those who died were overweight. About 65% of all the population are overweight, so that would indicate being fat is only a slight increase in risk.

We don't know. Maybe they were mobidly obese or smoked 60 a day and their lungs were struggling.

Maybe they were fitness fanatics (remember the patient zero marathon runner in Italy).

I'm freaked out that MSM reporting death of a 48 year old mother of twins. Previously healtgy, collapsed after having had it for three days and reporting tonsillitis symptoms.

I'm currently on day 2 of something grim that resembles tonsillitis throat, glands, temp, fatigue. Im 46 and overweight, high blood pressure whenever I take it, get anxiety and severe stress from work so heart races. I

My kids are at uni with other kids, with no underlying health conditions, who shove a shit load of drugs up their noses at every opportunity, which really cant be good for your heart. Things are not always what they seem.

Obesity is a MASSIVE risk factor for complications/severe case of COVID-19

And indeed any health condition ...

Lifestyle might play a part in someone's ability to fight off illness. A young person that drinks, smokes, lives off pot noodle and suffers poor mental health wouldn't have an underlying medical condition, but their immune system wouldn't be at its best. (No idea if that's true, just an observation)

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We also don't know how many of those who had "underlying problems" were de-prioritised if there was a shortage of ventilators

We don’t yet have a shortage of ventilators.

Apparently around 70% of people who have died from this virus are overweight because being obese puts such a strain on your lungs.

62% of people in the UK are overweight (28% obese and the rest overweight) so all things being equal you would expect a similar % of people dying to be overweight or obese.

If 70% of the people dying are obese then of course that is a significant risk compared to 28% of the population but somehow I doubt the 70% were all obese

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obesity_in_the_United_Kingdom

I don't understand why people try and comfort themselves by telling themselves that the young healthy people perhaps did have an underlying condition that they just didn't know about.

Any of us could think of ourselves as fit and healthy and have an 'unknown' condition. That's the point of it being 'unknown'!

It's possible that they could have some sort of underlying genetic vulnerability that they don't know about. I had two cousins and one friend who appeared to be young and healthy, but all three of them died around the age of 30 of sudden adult death syndrome.

The thing is, however rare it is to die of it as a young healthy adult, once you get enough cases that 0.1% or whatever (I can't remember the exact odds) becomes a substantial number of dead people.

Reports seem to say history of smoking and being overwieght are factors, and the average age of those losing their lives is 78.

You also need to look up "viral load" which seems to suggest you f you are exposed to a lot of the virus at once then your illness may be worse than someone who only met one person with it.

I noticed that before they ever said...

I’m a porker myself 3stone overweight so need to put away those pies and deal with it.

Also an exfagger

Apparently around 70% of people who have died from this virus are overweight because being obese puts such a strain on your lungs.

That’s pretty close to the amount of people in the population who are overweight.

The Daily Mail had a brilliant article saying around 63% of UK cases hospitalised were overweight. The same article mentioned two thirds of the U.K. population are overweight, but didn’t make the connection that the figures are the same!

the young 21 year women who died last week have a heart attack. What has that to do with the CV? I know she was tested positive but surely it wasnt CV that killed her? Have I missed something? And that 13 year old young lad a few days ago. He had a heart attack too but his family said he didnt have any underlying health issues.

I’m not a healthcare professional but I imagine this is because the lack of oxygen caused by the virus would cause the organs (heart) to fail.

They just said the average age of the deaths is 78. So, with the younger people we know about included the vast majority of deaths must still be very elderly.

It will be interesting to see if people take more care of themselves after this. It's not like we weren't told that smoking and obesity puts your health at higher risk. Maybe now people will believe it and be sufficiently motivated to do something about it.

The thing is that with young people, maybe they will not die, but it sounds like a terrible illness to get. If the young are thinking they will just get a cold, they will be in for a mighty shock if they end up as one of the 40% that end up with pneumonia.