China has approved the use of bear bile to treat critically ill coronavirus patients.

[Grumpyoldpersonwithcats]

From the BBC website.

Words fail me.

Puzzledandpissedof it seems it has stopped now which is good news, but only a couple of years ago.

Not just the dogs,

The bears, the bats and the rest of the wild animals killed for fun.

Farming is a necessary evil. Eating dogs and killing them is not.

@ChardonnaysPetDragon ah the classic ‘I grew up on a farm’.

Unless you have visited every farm in the UK and have personally seen how the animals are treated and killed then know you can only speak on your own experiences.

Literally will take 30 seconds on YouTube to show undercover footage of torture in the UK.

I think everyone can see the only one being a hypocrite here is you.

Keep banging on about the dog and ignore the torture happening in your own country so you can continue believing the UK is any superior in animal treatment to China.

farming is absolutely unnecessary but continue with the lies and hypocrisy.

Interesting that the whole thread is about farming of bears so again what is the problem with farming bears when you seem fine with farming of cows and pigs?

And before you say bears are endangered then let me remind you that as soon as humans capture and mass farm animals then they’d top being endangered.

Farming is a necessary evil. Eating dogs and killing them is not. Seriously?

@ChardonnaysPetDragon Why is killing and eating a pig vital but doing the same to a dog isn’t vital.

I have never eaten an animal, if eating animals was vital I would be long dead.

Wonder if Chardonnay will ever answer why killings and eating dogs is wrong but eating and killing cows pigs and chickens is not. If farming is a necessarily evil why are dogs excluded from that?

@SimonJT I’ve been an on again off again meat eater but this thread really reminded me of the hypocrisy of meat eaters. I don’t think I can stomach eating another animal. Thanks for the wake up call.

Just to be clear, China using bear bile has been going on since forever.
The bears are kept in small cages with a tube permanently fixed to their insides, (I think it's the gall bladder), where they are then milked, like cows, by turning the tube on and off.
The small cages prevent the bears from too much movement to prevent them from ripping out the tubes.
That's good old China for you.

No, I haven't visited many farms in the UK, and my growing up was a long time ago.

Not sure what you mean with "the classic" and I'm not sure what you mean with "your own country". Which one is my own country is which one is yours?

The way I see it is that you happy to see some animals being tortured because others are. If that makes me a hypocrite, so be it.

I honestly don't care what you think of me.

@KonTikki sounds eerily similar to how battery farmed chickens are kept here right?

@ChardonnaysPetDragon the way I see it YOU are the one who is happy to see cows pigs and chickens tortured but are inexplicably outraged by the same things happening to dogs.

I am the one who is equally outraged by both.

Run along now.

Farming is a necessary evil. Eating dogs and killing them is not. Seriously?

This from someone who says it's conspiracy theory that the virus came from China.

Of course you are.
Except the part of blowtorching live animals is conveniently missing from your post.

For fuck’s SAKE! This entire crisis started because of people who see animals as resources to exploit instead of as individuals who should be left alone. Absolutely disgraceful decision.

And they still insist on animal testing for cosmetics.

Indeed, and all of the big Western cosmetics companies willingly go along with this.

Chardonnay would you be happy for me send you a link showing animals being blowtorches and tortured alive on UK farms?

The use of animals to test cosmetics products or their ingredients is banned in the UK and all other member states of the European Union. Since March 2013, it has also been illegal to sell cosmetics products within the EU which have been, or which contain ingredients, newly tested on animals.

Sorry to put some facts into this.

Or will you continue to pretend that blowtorching animals (don’t understand why you are so hung up on that particular type of torture) doesn’t occur in the UK?

Smilethoyourheartisbreaking

No tin foil hat here, thanks. The Mayor of Wuhan has admitted this.

If we start 'the next one', cover it up, arrest whistleblowers, then let 5 million citizens from the city of the source leave to potentially spread it, yes I would expect atleast heavy criticism, if not sanctions or financial penalties. We wouldn't need Brexit, the EU would probably boot us out yesterday.

I wonder why people so desperately want ignore to what happens in China. This isn't the only thing that people are careful to not mention or criticise.

@Grumpyoldpersonwithcats the western companies sell products to China which have been tested on animals and then they sell different products in the EU which haven’t.

All under the same company though which shows the hypocrisy of Western cosmetic companies

Which is why I choose to purchase only cruelty free

Cinnamonbuns:
I didn't realise that chickens are kept with tubes permanently inserted into their gall bladders.
Luckily you're such a mine of useful farming information to put me to rights.
Thankyou for another utterly useless, meaningless diatribe !

op can you give us link because I have done a search & cant find anything on BBC