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People will DIE & not from Covid 19! So STAY home...

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TTTs · 01/04/2020 22:02

Honestly, I have not been out now for over 2 weeks with my DC. We took them for a drive today round our village for 2 minutes out the house.... people were still out chatting to each other and letting there DC play on the parks!!!

WTF is wrong with people? Its not just about the Fing virus anymore! Don't you all get that....

People are having cancer investigations AND treatments stopped! And this will carry on for as long as this virus is here! People are going to DIE from cancer and other illness' because people are to SELFISH to stay in doors!!

My poor DM will more than likely lose her best friend of 50 years to cancer as her op has been cancelled! And then to top it of she probably won't even be allowed at her funeral if it comes to it...
But no one gives a shit. As long as they can get out and do what ever it is they want to do!!

Selfish tw*ts.

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Amotherof6 · 01/04/2020 23:38

Also the businesses that will go bust if it goes on and on... some can last a month... others not....

So if people keep on spreading it then more businesses will go bankrupt...

It's about all sort of interrelating things.... but people being people don't want to change things and so it will take along time in this country to lower the rate of infection..

WeAllHaveWings · 01/04/2020 23:39

Taking your children out for a drive is also non essential.

We had a serious multi vehicle accident near us today. Pressure on the emergency services might have been avoided or reduced if one of those cars weren't there or had less people in them.

OP you are a hypocrite.

Eskarina1 · 01/04/2020 23:40

It's about risk assessment. Our consultants are reviewing everyone to see who can't be safely postponed x time and they are being seen. I didn't know they were doing this for cancer patients but the process should be the same.

Potentially more people will die from non-covid causes than from COVID. However, the number we should compare it to is how many would have died if nothing was done to reduce transmission/increase nhs capacity. Death rates in the hundreds of thousands have been discussed as realistic. Not all scientists agree but enough credible sources to make it a very real possibility.

FreakStar · 01/04/2020 23:41

A two minute drive to the garage, when they were going there to pick up essential items anyway, is reasonable travel.

The over the top following of 'rules' on this thread is ridiculous!

Even the police have been told that people should not be stopped driving a reasonable distance to exercise. So I'm sure it's reasonable for family members to accompany another family member in the car on a short journey to the shop. The chances of being involved in an accident that involves hospitalisation on such a journey are minimal, and not the reason the 'non-essential' travel rule exists!

Thefaceofboe · 01/04/2020 23:41

I doubt op will be back

justasking111 · 01/04/2020 23:42

We had a road accident yesterday, the road was shut for six hours following a truck hitting a walker. Accidents really do cause chaos which is not needed at this time.

BeetrootRocks · 01/04/2020 23:46

You haven't taken your 2 DC out for a walk in a fortnight?

If none of you have symptoms you can and should do that. I know some people don't have access to places to do that, is that why?

BeetrootRocks · 01/04/2020 23:47

'the virus would be gone in a few weeks and we could all go out and socialise'

Oh.

Yeah that's not how it goes.

Aesopfable · 01/04/2020 23:54

If we want the virus gone in a few weeks then we should be mixing as much as possible. Hold big concerts and gatherings giving free tickets to anyone with symptoms. That should mean in a few weeks we could get back to normal (minus a few hundred thousands who succumbed).

eaglejulesk · 02/04/2020 00:14

I can see the OP's point. If too many people are breaking the rules, then the rules are likely to tighten up, or the lockdown will go on for longer. Who will be the first to complain? That's right, the few who wouldn't do as they are told and stay away from other people. Ignore the people having a go at you OP - many of them are probably the ones out chatting with their friends and letting their kids play in playgrounds.

SallySun123 · 02/04/2020 00:15

You need to be fit and healthy to fight off the virus if you get it OP. That’s why the government are allowing people out for exercise once a day.

NoSquirrels · 02/04/2020 00:30

I don't understand how they can justify cancelling cancer surgeries

Really don't understand, or just "I am shocked it is necessary to and I wish it was different..."?

They're cancelling surgeries because 1) you could end up in ICU if there are complications from surgery, and the less people who need ICU right now the better and 2) recovery on ward puts you in an environment where you are much, much more likely to contract Covid-19 than isolating at home and then go back to 1).

This will have been risk-assessed on a scale of "who can feasibly wait another 6 weeks".

It fucking sucks (my mum is a cancer patient, I know how much it fucking sucks) but there really is no way in which going into hospital right now is a great idea if it can be avoided at all.

These are absolutely horrific times to be unwell. It's not the NHS's fault. It's not even the fault of the arseholes in the play park. It's just shit all round in a myriad tiny ways.

Don't be cross. Be kind if you possibly, possibly can. Mostly because being cross doesn't even help at all.

SleepingStandingUp · 02/04/2020 00:51

@TTTs do you realise every vehicle on the road increases the risk or a RTA ehich will put more pressure on the NHS? Why couldn't you or DH walk the half mile, hiding onto DCs hand or carrying them if necessary? The last thing the NHS needs is more stress on it from preventable accidents

SinisterBumFacedCat · 02/04/2020 00:58

With RTAs it doesn’t help that people seem to be driving about like nutters at the moment too. I do think we seem to have forgotten people are going to get sick and die of things other than Covid 19. People are being left in extreme pain due to dentists surgeries shutting and no emergency dental pods running yet. Pain that is said to be worse than giving birth. The asthma thing is terrifying.

coachman · 02/04/2020 08:15

I find it interesting how opinions vary on different threads. Here the OP is getting a roasting for taking her daughter out on a non essential car journey yet on another thread where a mum asks if it's ok to take her 2 year old out for a drive because she's bored and likes to look out of car windows most people are saying it's fine!

I guess it's because here the OP is saying 'do as I say, not as I do'

Laniakea · 02/04/2020 08:20

the virus would be gone in a few weeks and we could all go out and socialise

^ this is astonishingly stupid.

TestBank · 02/04/2020 08:34

If only it was so easy ....

I wonder if anyone in that park was bitching about the whole family heading out for a nice day out in their car, with an equal lack of self awareness

WhoShouldISayIsCalling · 02/04/2020 08:44

I guess it's because here the OP is saying 'do as I say, not as I do'

I think so.

The OP feels she has a justification for going out and taking her daughter but doesn't understand that others will have made the same risk assessment/judgement too.

TooGood2BeTrue · 02/04/2020 08:44

I find it very concerning that people are having their appointments cancelled or postponed even if it's cancer treatment or screening. It seems like CV deaths are to be prevented at all costs - including patients dying from things like cancer or cardiovascular diseases. I can see a lot of medical lawsuits coming up...

Selfisolationquery · 02/04/2020 08:48

Haven't RTFT so this has probably been addressed but going out for a 2 min drive isn't essential so you're just as much of a "selfish tw*t". You're breaking the guidelines just as much as someone taking their kids to the park. Get off your high horse and don't be so hypocritical!

Leobynature · 02/04/2020 08:58

Your anger is misdirected, that’s how those in power divide and conquer. Direct your annoyance that all other NHS duties have been abandoned in light of The Coronavirus to Matt Hancock.

okiedokieme · 02/04/2020 08:58

Actually it's not quite what you think - it will not be over quicker if people stay inside, quite the opposite - it's about not overloading the nhs with too many cases at once. Be upset people are breaking the rules but be aware it isn't making things last longer, possibly the opposite

NotEverythingIsBlackandwhite · 02/04/2020 09:04

I'm really shocked cancer surgery is being postponed. My DH had a PSA blood test at GP surgery last week and GP telephoned saying he was being referred to hospital and that, despite the CV crisis, to expect to be contacted within a week to attend.

a friend's mum's mastectomy was cancelled too
Why would they defer this surgery which could lead to the loss of life? If is just because the patient's death may be a bit further away and not imminent? Why not give the mastectomy sooner rather than later and potentially stop it from mestastIsing? It just doesn't make sense to me.

March20 · 04/04/2020 16:16

I totally agree. GPs should have to see people in surgery as they are medical staff (same as those that work in a hospital) they are taking home quite a large pay packet nobody wants to be at risk of COVID-19 GPs have really let the team down. I asked a GP how she could listen to my chest via telephone as I had been poorly for 2 weeks. I think they need to roll their sleeves up gown and glove up like the rest of us would have to!! At the end of the day GPs refusing to see people in surgery will only put a strain on the main hospitals when they end up in A&E..

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