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Would you vaccinate yourself against CV

366 replies

LaPerla · 30/03/2020 21:32

Would you be the first to vaccinate yourself/children against CV when the vaccine is available?

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ChardonnaysPetDragon · 01/04/2020 21:18

Also, not rushed out and chip free. And don't think Bill Gates and Zuckerberg were involved in the making of it, so that good!

LookingGlassMilk · 01/04/2020 21:25

I think people are aware that the BCG is not a Covid 19 vaccine.

LookingGlassMilk · 01/04/2020 21:42

Also, not rushed out and chip free

Yeah because concerns about rushed vaccines are totally in the same ballpark as conspiracy theories about chips Hmm

Pulpfiction1 · 01/04/2020 22:08

Considering the number of drugs that are produced each year, the number that have serious problems is really low.

You know that for a fact do you. My ds was made deaf by an antibiotic that is routinely used in hospitals all over the country because its cheap and effective so worth the risk of a life changing side effect. I'll bet its not the only one as well.

Don't be so naive. All drugs have side effects. They weigh up the potential side effects by the risk of not treating. They also factor in the cost of a drug with sever side plus possible compensation claims, vs the cost of a safer more expensive drug.

WanderingTrolley1 · 01/04/2020 22:21

No and no.

SmileyClare · 02/04/2020 08:07

To the people saying Hell No, Never in a million years would I have the covid19 vaccine, can I ask how you think this pandemic should be resolved?

  1. You want to live like a hermit forever?
  2. You want CV to sweep through the whole population in an horrific survival of the fittest scenario?
  3. You're expecting the majority of people to vaccinate so your chances of catching it are lowered?
  4. Covid 19 will go away on it's own.
Paddington68 · 02/04/2020 08:11

Of course.

hepburnmed · 02/04/2020 08:30

Possibly - but definitely not before taking an antibody test...

Mostly I’d be concerned that long term effects were invisible at the time any vaccine would be offered.

Flossie44 · 02/04/2020 08:36

SmileyClaire - you’ve hit the nail on the head!! I really wouldn’t hesitate to have it!!

SwerfandTurf · 02/04/2020 08:39

I’m sorry but the idea of an antivaxxer trying to use “idiot savant” as an insult, obviously having no idea what the term means, is hilarious.

mindproject · 02/04/2020 11:25

I heard there were cases of people getting the virus twice. In which case, how would the vaccine work exactly?

Stuckforthefourthtime · 02/04/2020 11:29

SmileyClare you forgot option 5 - hope that everyone else gets the vaccination and takes the risk, so that you and your family can be safe from both covid and any side effects.

It's the arsehole option, also very popular with parents in my area when it comes to the MMR.

Sakura7 · 02/04/2020 11:31

People saying "no, it's a rushed job" are being ridiculous. A vaccine being released to hundreds of millions of people will be thoroughly tested, that's a big part of the reason why it will be some time before we get one.

catscatscatseverywhere · 02/04/2020 11:32

It's the arsehole option, also very popular with parents in my area when it comes to the MMR
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Did you have mmr shot? I did. Words can’t describe how many side effects I had. My fiance is literally so ill after stupid flu vaccine- he takes off sick after that! So yes, I would not want to be vaccinated agains covid.

mindproject · 02/04/2020 11:46

Can someone with some scientific knowledge answer my question please?

SmileyClare · 02/04/2020 12:18

Mindproject Coronaviruses aren't new they've been around for a long time so a fair amount is known about corona viruses in general. The evidence is that once you've had a specific coronavirus, you are immune. For example people who have had MERS coV are immune from being reinfected.
There is not enough data to say that with this virus, but it is likely the same. It is also not known how long that immunity lasts.

It is possible to relapse after the illness. That is not a reinfection. I don't know enough about the cases you are referring to.

That said, it is possible that people who are immunocompromised (weak or impaired immunity) can contract the virus again.

Studies are ongoing as more data is collected on this particular coronavirus. There is no magic solution and it's likely that covid 19 is here to stay; coming in seasonal peaks as flu does.
It's possible that it will mutate into a less dangerous disease over time with milder symptoms.

SmileyClare · 02/04/2020 12:22

Also to add, a vaccine would likely be given to vulnerable groups (as the flu jab is) every year because the antibodies that protect you decline over time.

BeijingBikini · 02/04/2020 12:22

@Sakura7, it will be tested and all side effects that appear during the trial will be recorded. But there is no way of recording side effects that may only appear in many years time, in 18 months. You'd just have to wait and hope for the best.

CrunchyCarrot · 02/04/2020 12:24

I heard there were cases of people getting the virus twice. In which case, how would the vaccine work exactly?

There are two strains of this coronavirus, apparently, a mild strain and a much nastier, more virulent one. There was a chap in Iceland who had both strains simultaneously. So what could be done is to make a vaccine against both strains (just like with flu).

www.newscientist.com/article/2236544-coronavirus-are-there-two-strains-and-is-one-more-deadly/

Sakura7 · 02/04/2020 12:41

But there is no way of recording side effects that may only appear in many years time, in 18 months. You'd just have to wait and hope for the best.

Two points:

  • The scientific and medical community already has a wealth of information on other coronaviruses and other vaccines, and the measure required in order to ensure safety. The chances of serious long term effects from a vaccine of this type are very slim.
  • I'd much sooner take my chances with the vaccine than with a virus that could kill me and my loved ones.

Can't believe how many anti vaxxers are popping out of the woodwork here, who think the concerns they've made up in their own heads somehow trump the research and experience of medical experts.

LastTrainEast · 02/04/2020 12:55

Those worried about chips might like to know that I helped design the ones in your tap water and in all coffee vending machines. Grin

LastTrainEast · 02/04/2020 12:55

Oh and yes I'd have the vaccine of course.

BeijingBikini · 02/04/2020 13:22

No-one's made up the concept of long-term side effects of drugs in their own heads. I used to work in clinical trials, I know how trials work. I have no problem with taking medicines that have been around for years but would be cautious with brand new ones that haven't yet had years of Stage 4 trials (once they're already out) to collect a wealth of side effects from the general public.

LookingGlassMilk · 02/04/2020 13:31

People saying "no, it's a rushed job" are being ridiculous. A vaccine being released to hundreds of millions of people will be thoroughly tested, that's a big part of the reason why it will be some time before we get one.

Why are you ignoring the fact that this exact thing occurred in Ireland during the last pandemic?

the concerns they've made up in their own heads

Maybe you should have given evidence in the pandemrix court case in Ireland last autumn. You could have told them that everything was just made up in peoples heads. You could have saved the Irish government millions.