Would you vaccinate yourself against CV

[LaPerla]

Would you be the first to vaccinate yourself/children against CV when the vaccine is available?

I’d much rather have the vaccine than take choloroquine, had that about 20 years ago and it sent me totally batshit.

'luxlfc I'm with you. I think it's deeply sinister that Gates is involved in it all.

A lot of things David Icke as been saying for 30 years now, is beginning to come true.

Why is it so hard to believe that they want to reduce the population and completely control anyone left? It has happened before and will happen again. There is nothing anyone can do to stop it.

@Pulpfiction1 unless they use primary school age children, who have the least risk from Covid, like they do the flu nasal spray.

There is no way I will get this vaccine. I'm not a Christian, but I am very worried about being chipped, or similar. I 100% do not trust the authorities. I don't now why anyone does trust the authorities. Are you oblivious to everything that goes on? Hopefully, with all this free time people have right now they will do a little bit of research into how the world is actually run.

Yes I would get vaccinated, maybe not immediately as priority should be given to medical staff and the most vulnerable but after that yes, whole family would.

Wow there's a lot of batshit on this thread. Seen any lizard people around recently?

I 100% do not trust the authorities. I don't now why anyone does trust the authorities.
So, you never go to hospital or use roads. Death traps, they are. The authorities only want to know where we are and kill us on road accidents.q

@G5000 I feel like I'm in an alternate reality with all this microchipping and lizard talk...

I can't tell if they're joking or serious

This thread has taken a bizarre turn with talk of microchips and David Icke. That bloody man (Wakefield) and his attack on the MMR vaccine, which was designed to get his vaccine in the market, should be held accountable for the massive damage his faulty shelf serving research caused. Mind you it never should have been published in the first place.

As for the lizards I despair.

I fucking hope the microchipping, conspiracy, don't trust the authorities posters are joking. Either that or half of mumsnet have gone completely mental.

luxLFC Why do you end your replies to me with "bye Clare"?
I think you should know my names not Clare, it's Bill Gates and I'm planning to implant you with a digital microchip disguised as a nurse Mwah ha ha ha

Seriously though, get a grip. A vaccine against this deadly disease is our one hope to save people and allow the world to return to some semblance of normality.

We won't be tricked into taking the mark of the beast. It will be absolutely clear it is the mark of the Antichrist. I presume the vaccine won't be injected into the forehead or hand either, leaving a mark. I'll have the vaccine, if it's offered to me, possibly later rather than in the first batch, just in case. I'll never give up my freedom to be chipped.

I fucking hope the microchipping, conspiracy, don't trust the authorities posters are joking. Either that or half of mumsnet have gone completely mental

They must be joking, surely. Or all the isolating has sent them doolally.

hopefully with all this free time we have, people will start doing a little bit of research into how the world is actually run

This is the problem. People have gone half crazed with social isolation and are spending hours on internet research*

*research involves hours in a internet wormhole looking at odd conspiracy theories, backed up by dubious "experts" and anecdotes from Debbie off Facebook.

So I've spent a fascinating afternoon reading up about the association between narcolepsy and the GSK swine flu vaccine. See for me (working in the pharma industry) it shows that the yellow card system (and equivalent systems in other countries) works.

Firstly, and most importantly, the number affected were tiny, less than 1 in 10000 in the affected age group (adolescents) in the country with a highest rate, so a handful of individuals in total. Narcolepsy has a strong genetic component and the effect was only seen in some of the countries where Pandemrix was administered suggesting an additional factor, it is not as simple as 'the swine flu vaccine causes narcolepsy', more along the lines of 'the swine flu vaccine may have been a contributing factor in the development of narcolepsy in individuals with a previous genetic predisposition to developing the disease'. Narcolepsy has never before been seen as a contraindicator for any previously used vaccine. Yet despite all this we (doctors and scientists and regulatory agencies) found the link, investigated it and acted on it. We're awesome.

Yes. Completely. Dh, me the kids. Parents, in laws (even MIL) the lot. As soon as available and we qualify.

To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if unvaccinated people (excluding those who can't) face restrictions as they would be a risk.

Then again I view the anti vax position to be the ultimate expression of 1st world privelege (other words also apply).

Yup. Same way I do the flu vaccine. And the Pneumonia one.

The only ones I was tested for immunity for to see whether I needed them first (working for NHS and then just before starting biologics) were Measles, Mumps and Rubella and TB. Which was fine by me, I'd have had the vaccines without testing if they'd said it was necessary.

I have no desire to kill off somebody else, It would be nice if that same courtesy had been afforded me, as it would have saved my perfect eyesight before Measles, some horrendous bouts of influenza, pneumonia and TB. Oh, and it would mean DP's best friend was still alive.

Yes .

CountFosco the voice of reason.
Unfortunately when confronted with facts and challenged, anti vaxxers respond with radio silence.

@CountFosco Really helpful post.

@SmileyClare you can’t berate people for making their minds up about things they have read on the internet / ‘Debbie off Facebook’ and then put @CountFosco (a random on Mumsnet) as the voice of reason and claim she is speaking facts, just because she agrees with your views! Ironic much!

I am also wondering what impact this crisis will have on ordinary childhood vaccination rates. There are already rumors of parents too panicked to take their kids in for their MMRs and other things or planning to put it off "until things calm down," even though the government has said clearly that you should stick to the normal schedule. We know that when vaccines get delayed for whatever reason, they often end up just not happening at all---plus, we could end up with a situation where a lot of unvaccinated children are all brought together suddenly when the restrictions are lifted.

Yup!

Yes, absolutely. I was pregnant during the swine flu outbreak and I had the vaccination for that too.

You can't berate people for making their minds up about things they have read on the internet and then put (a random from mumsnet ) as the voice of reason.

Fair point I was just pleased to read someone sensibly presenting a counter argument to the poster who wrote
"The swine flu jab caused narcolepsy!" which received replies like;
"Oh my God! I didn't know that!!"

The irony was that no-one replied to the counter argument.

I think some people like the idea of pharmacy conspiracies and so on and love the drama of spreading shocking "facts" usually followed by lots of exclamation marks.

I despair about some of the anti vaxx shit circulating on the internet.

smileyclare It was me who posted about the pandemrix narcolepsy link. There were no exclamation marks in my post. I am not an anti-vaxxer and I stated clearly in my post that my children are all fully vaccinated.

I simply posted what is being reported in the mainstream media in the country that I live in. Perhaps I should have phrased it differently 'The rushed swine flu vaccination pandemrix, was later shown to be associated with increased incidence in narcolepsy'

I don't appreciate being smeared as an exclamation mark loving, conspiracy theorist antivaxxer.