If/when the restrictions are lessened what will be first?

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I know we are nowhere near yet I just wondered what MNtters think.Personally I think it would be the schools that went back first and as I work in hospitality I doubt it is us.What does anyone else think?

Building sites will be the first ones back. Then takeaways restaurants and non essential shops. Schools probably be last

Bluntness “ We don’t have the money to shut down too long and they asked a lot of companies not to and many did, shooting the bill up massively.”

Are you thinking of construction companies?

But surely only primary schools need parents looking after children, secondary and colleges should be last.

Not ideal either, since schools aren’t childcare and the education provided by secondary schools is more significant in many ways than primary

I think schools will be back last and restaurants etc before. Other non essential shops and businesses before and if they are not closed on government advice the furloughing should be stopped. It should really be for businesses who have closed or would be making redundancies not those who should be open and have bowed to social media and employee pressure.

Autumn, all companies, they addressed it in the press conference a few times, they made it clear they wanted companies working and that people should work from home where possible, but if not they wanted them in work, other than those they had shut down Ie pubs, clubs, cinemas, shops, show rooms, etc.

But a lot of them shut down against the request, which has made the bill for benefits and furlough much bigger than anyone wished.

I think the very last thing to be stopped is the advice to work from home. Once that’s been implemented and is ticking along it should be easy for companies to maintain

Exactly bluntness. I think once furlough was announced a lot of people saw their chance to get to stay home on 80% pay too even though they could still work and people going to work was included in the modelling and the employers caved to pressure. It’s a common misapprehension even on here that it was all but essential work that was instructed to cease.

I think they might keep schools closed til summer, then allow childcare providers to open for the summer holidays, then schools after that to ease it in. Would also mean teachers still got their summer holidays which otherwise there may be uproar about.

I think pubs, clubs etc will be about the last to go back

Yeah i agree, i think construction and tale aways, maybe restuarants if they can take tables out to maintain social distancing, i think office workers will be asked to wfh where still possible or split 50/50 with office days, public transport will be ran more frequently. I think it will be a while before supermarkets are fully open but maybe extending their trading hours again. I think schools will be last, although not sure how that helps people who have to go back to work.

Yes, I’ve seen so many people on here saying people should only be going to work if they are key workers/doing essential work. That has never been the case. It was made clear that you should work from home if possible, but if you can’t then you should go to work.

It was easier for housebuilders to close sites than put in proper welfare facilities for the contractors working on them. Closing sites won't cost them any money as subbies and self employed trades were left to the government to deal with. Taylor Wimpy site DH was working on had 1 portaloo with no soap for about 40 men to use

It's very true re furlough. We've had to close anyway but at one point tried to do a keyworker service. We had staff pushing left, right and centre for furlough so I can see why some companies would cave. We had 6 out of 18 staff claim to be self isolating due to symptoms/vulnerability/relatives/boyfriend's granny (based in different premises so not spreading around)

*Building sites will be the first ones back. Then takeaways restaurants and non essential shops. Schools probably be last
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Construction is still ongoing around here, low rise blocks of flats (London, zone 2).

Less people onsite (I think) but still many of them.

Schools first, probably primary. Can’t expect people to go to work if their kids are at home clearly.

Bluntness I see, I did wonder that. I didn’t want to make comments about furlough but I do know a couple of people who are saying they need to self isolate when they don’t.

“ Taylor Wimpy site DH was working on had 1 portaloo with no soap for about 40 men to use”

That should be unacceptable in any work situation.

Exactly @AutumnRose1 but spending money on the welfare of their sub contractors are not a high priority for most housebuilders

Please let it be primary schools :) I read a piece in the telegraph today it's an English company making the tests. Governments ordered initially 3.5 million and they'll sold through boots and amazon.

Furlough was a bit of an own goal. I don’t think the government envisaged so many companies just shutting down, factories, offices, everything, not even ticking over with a skeleton staff.

They stated two or three times at the press conferences, that they didn’t want that and for companies to remain open, for people to work from home, and where that was simply not possible for them to actually go to work, and for those work places to practice social distancing, they even stated they requested it not to happen because if this went on for months, and restrictions got tougher, they couldn’t pay it and the companies would never recover, they would go bust. So they had to be operational.

They even said the virus modelling was done on people going to work.

But everyone started self isolating, so many thought essential meant key workers only, everyone lived with someone vulnerable or had kids, so many wanted to stay home on the eighty percent. People were scared and didn’t want to go to work.

We saw it on here, people objecting to having to work, or saying how much they loved lock down and the slower pace.

On top of that people stopped buying or ordering, so demand dropped, many companies simply couldn’t operate because their suppliers shut down.

The government gave a definite list of who was to shut, and anyone else was to work. But thousands of companies ignored it,

So now there is a huge friggen bill and they need to stop it and get folks back, which will involve the schools.

But the upside is, the virus is probably much more controlled than it was going to be, in a much shorter time frame. Clearly they didn’t expect the numbers to be where they are now. Because we shut down more than the government intended.

If they don’t allow schools/nurseries to open, but then allow business to open then where are the children of these workers going to go? Closing schools was the least effective restriction in reducing critical care beds admissions. There is also the risk children go to grandparents if there is no other childcare. A lot of people, financially will have no choice in that situation. If businesses open, the government will pull the furlough scheme so it will turn up or lose your job. I think they’ll let schools back (maybe just primary then secondary). If they could get them back for June/July then if there’s another peak you can put restrictions in place over the summer holidays. If things don’t peak again you can allow more businesses to open.

Schools can't be last if they want the economy moving. Or else who will be able to look after workers' children?

I’ve had all my work cancelled and I wish it hadn’t been cancelled for so long. Depending on how long this goes on, I might apply to the supermarket but I’ve no experience of that.

I was thinking, if a lot of companies are keen to get back to work but have staff self isolating, will there be any demand for admin temps?

I think the schools will go back 1 June (as long as these restrictions reduce the peak). You then have 3 weeks before the 12 week period ends for vulnerable people. The government has always stressed 3 weeks to see changes. So I think they’ll open schools 1 June, if this doesn’t cause a flare then those self-isolating may be allowed to go out more (but told to be very careful).

@AutumnRose1 keep your cv online up to date, and keep looking... Apply to supermarkets and see what happens

I agree Strawberry.

After all the time so many people have had confined to their homes, I suspect I'm not the only one who has spent some time decluttering?
Therefore I hope the Charity Shops and the tip are the first places to open

To all those saying construction, it's still open. Emails going out to firms today asking why no men in site.

We were on a commercial build for a local council project (new library and council hub thing, across the road from the existing 15 year old one) and been quizzed this morning as to why not on site. Despite explaining why last week, 3 out of 4 of our lads are vulnerable and main contractors rules state no one from vulnerable groups to attend site. Or people car sharing. Or living with someone in vulnerable (flu jab) group.