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Could this be the end of the Royal family?

839 replies

BeijingBikini · 30/03/2020 12:52

I don't mean if they die of the virus...

But there's nothing like a lockdown to really highlight inequality. I saw an article yesterday about Kate + William "isolating" at Anmer Hall, having done a photoshoot where they pretend to be on the telephone and writing ("working").

I think if people are going to have to spend months at home, in small flats with kids, still going out to work or trying to WFH, queueing for supermarkets with empty shelves......that could definitely breed some discontent. Or if people catch it and have to be treated in makeshift hospitals, not getting an ambulance until they're struggling to breathe, while the RF can be whisked away to a private hospital for treatment. I've already seen a lot of comments along the lines of "why don't they offer up their many palaces to be used as hospitals, rather than doing newspaper articles".

Opinions?

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BeijingBikini · 30/03/2020 15:24

And arguably celebs do "earn" their fame, even if through pointless ways like going on Love Island or making a sex tape. Whereas the Royals are literally born into this, and that doesn't sit well with a society that tries to tell everyone "you can be whatever you want to be".

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Wolfgirrl · 30/03/2020 15:24

@eddiemairswife

I agree that if it was open ended we could well end up with Justin Bieber or someone.

But it could be a closed referendum, giving the option of the royals or a ceremonial head of state (like in Ireland). The duties of both would be very similar, but the latter a lot cheaper, with the option of getting rid of them if they do a rubbish job Smile

audreysview · 30/03/2020 15:26

I think we should rid ourselves of the notion that they are “hard working”.None of them actually “work”. They have servants, chauffeurs, cooks etc who do the work. They have engagements, but all the work is done by others.

Escapeistheonlyoption · 30/03/2020 15:29

Anmer Hall is their primary residence. They had it before they were given an apartment in Kensington Palace. They go there are weekends and during school holidays. It isn't a holiday let.

It is not their primary residence- their children go to school in London and even with independent school holidays term time days outweigh non term time.

They certainly dont spend every week and holiday their either.

CrazyToast · 30/03/2020 15:30

@Sizeablecontours Is horseflesh actual horses? Or some covert term for hot young royals? Grin

definitelygc · 30/03/2020 15:31

I don't think anyone should have multiple millions, spare properties and private jets when there are decent, working people struggling to put food on the table. That applies to everyone - royal, celebrity, CEO, footballer, whatever. It's not about jealousy, it's about fairness. Our materialistic, consumerist culture is destroying our planet so why are we still glorifying these people?

Thekindofwindowsfaceslookinat · 30/03/2020 15:36

So much sneering and thinking they are cool when the comments are old, boring and make you sound jealous. Don't bother denying it. I don't care

This kind of remark is what I'd expect to hear from primary school kids having an argument.

It makes you sound far less intelligent than you possibly are.

Peregrina · 30/03/2020 15:38

I thought the same re Anmer home being their primary residence - where do the children go to school? Not in Norfolk, although I think George did start nursery there.

Wolfgirrl · 30/03/2020 15:39

Yeah. Let's just get rid of them. Then the masses can idolise the Kardashians and Donald Trump.

Or an elected head of state @underthepatio ?

Embarrassingly Kim K has just donated $1 million of her own money towards coronavirus... shame you cant say the same for the royals!

SunshineCake · 30/03/2020 15:45

Oh no, *@JustInCaseCakeHappens isn't happy with me.

Sizeablecontours · 30/03/2020 15:45

Crazytoast definitely prefer the equine variety! Grin Grin

SunshineCake · 30/03/2020 15:46

. Not interested and don't like how argumentative and xxxx I have been.

JustInCaseCakeHappens · 30/03/2020 15:50

Oh no, @JustInCaseCakeHappens isn't happy with me.*
Confused

feeling ok? You might be taking an online forum a little bit too seriously...

JustInCaseCakeHappens · 30/03/2020 15:51

bye then SunshineCake!

JustInCaseCakeHappens · 30/03/2020 15:55

That applies to everyone - royal, celebrity, CEO, footballer, whatever. It's not about jealousy, it's about fairness.

celebs, CEO, footballers have earned their position and are generating huge amounts - which is why they get a portion of it.

Royals? Are doing nothing and should no longer be a financial burden for the rest of the country. Diana's private fortune is more than enough to keep her sons in the wealthiest life they can want, without them needing to wave to the public twice a month. Actually, one son, the other one is much less of an hypocrite and gave up on the circus, good on him.

fruitbrewhaha · 30/03/2020 15:56

I don't know why people focus on the Royal Family when discussing inequality. While they are the figurehead for all things "rich" there are many many incredibly wealthy people in the world and the gap between them and the poor, and there are even more people in poverty, has got bigger in the last 10 years.

Anyone with vast wealth has accumulated it by disadvantaging the poor. This stems back to aristocracy taxing the poor on their lands to industrialists making money from the work of the proletariat workers. Behind every rich person is a crowd of poor people.

We need to wake up up to the inequality of capitalism, not just the royals.

HarrySnotter · 30/03/2020 15:57

I haven't given them a thought. Kind of got bigger things to worry about right now to be honest.

fruitbrewhaha · 30/03/2020 16:02

celebs, CEO, footballers have earned their position and are generating huge amounts - which is why they get a portion of it.

That's the myth they would have us believe.

Executive compensation has been out of control for years. How can one person earn more in a day than an average worker earns in a year?

CathyorClaire · 30/03/2020 16:03

Plenty of non-royals have buggered off to their 2nd homes

And been roundly criticised for doing so.

They also aren't mouthpieces for Public Health England. The recurrent theme among the royals appears to be do as I say and not as I do.

JustInCaseCakeHappens · 30/03/2020 16:03

I don't know why people focus on the Royal Family when discussing inequality.

because they have nothing to do with capitalism. They are just an outdated concept, producing nothing and being a burden on the country and the tax payer.
Football players or actors or the chairman of petrochemical company have earned their place- even if they had a head start.

PlanDeRaccordement · 30/03/2020 16:04

Meh. They are rich. The titles are mostly honorary. The public funds they get are reimbursements for state duties, or to maintain public owned palaces that they rent from the state. Yes, the Queen is a tenant of Buckingham Palace and the state are her landlord.
The Queen has transferred some of her private wealth to Prince Charles. Both William and Harry inherited their mother, Princess Diana’s £20m+ fortune, when she died. Diana came from a very rich family, the Spencers. They were children when she died, so their £10m each “trust funds” has grown quite a bit and they can spend an estimated £200k/yr without touching the principal.

Katherine’s parents are rich and have given her millions of £ so there’s at least another £200k/yr income bringing Will and Kate’s joint income up.
Meghan Markle was worth around £8m from actressing before she Married Harry.
They do pay taxes on this income like everyone else (except Meghan who pays US taxes). They at least don’t tax dodge by hiding their money in off shore tax shelters unlike everyone listed in the Panama papers. People like Richard Branson, Dyson, Jacob Rees Mogg, Theresa May’s husband, etc.
And there are many many people richer than them also rich by inherited wealth and not any hard work. Trump is a clear example of billionaires grandson who’s done nothing but spend his inheritance on failed business ventures and a playboy lifestyle.

JustInCaseCakeHappens · 30/03/2020 16:05

Executive compensation has been out of control for years. How can one person earn more in a day than an average worker earns in a year?
because they are worth more...

see how much revenue a football player generates for his club? That's why. Simple.

Noodlenosefraggle · 30/03/2020 16:06

I'd be happy with a severely slimmed down monarchy. What is the point these days with low childhood mortality of expecting the second and subsequent children of the monarch to sit around shaking hands and cutting ribbons for their whole life? It's done the last 3 no favours at all. If it was a given that Charlotte and Louis would not be Royal and would be making their own way, it would be better for them and therefore us. It would also mean all the various other hangers on would be gone. The monarch, the heir and their dependent children are enough. They wouldn't need 20 houses either. Two state residences and that's it.

CathyorClaire · 30/03/2020 16:07

The royals could be caught on camera kicking a dog in the face and the royalists would say 'but they raise awareness of animal charities'

A bit like Just Harry, the water buffalo and conservation?

YoTheGinPussyOfStMawesOnThigh · 30/03/2020 16:08

No one has mentioned the staged photo of the Queen on the phone to Boris? Maybe I am soft but I liked that photo a lot. The Queen with the very old fashioned looking phone and very casually dressed in a naice cardie and blouse that looked comfie and suited her.