Could this be the end of the Royal family?

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I don't mean if they die of the virus...

But there's nothing like a lockdown to really highlight inequality. I saw an article yesterday about Kate + William "isolating" at Anmer Hall, having done a photoshoot where they pretend to be on the telephone and writing ("working").

I think if people are going to have to spend months at home, in small flats with kids, still going out to work or trying to WFH, queueing for supermarkets with empty shelves......that could definitely breed some discontent. Or if people catch it and have to be treated in makeshift hospitals, not getting an ambulance until they're struggling to breathe, while the RF can be whisked away to a private hospital for treatment. I've already seen a lot of comments along the lines of "why don't they offer up their many palaces to be used as hospitals, rather than doing newspaper articles".

Opinions?

as if any of these immortals are going to queue for food or struggle with unemployment or accessing DWP support

To be fair they were happy enough to access public money when it came to applying to a low income fund to heat the palace: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11403544

Anyway, off for my daily "Boris exercise" so catch up later ...

The whole institution needs to be privatised now, let Royalists buy shares in them

Sounds like a great idea - those cute little royals clapping can advertise Fairy Liquid - 10 million views and counting!

@Puzzledandpissedoff

Ahhh so it has exemption from paying tax but is still treated as privately owned 😂😂 PC has that tied up in a neat little bow doesnt he!

To be fair they were happy enough to access public money when it came to applying to a low income fund to heat the palace

Even more surprising - Labour Government;

"Surprisingly the Government offered no resistance to the proposed application and cleared the way for the Queen to take advantage of the handout."

"But by August 2004 the documents show that Whitehall officials had changed their minds and poured cold water on the whole idea."

Has anyone seen the Queens twitter message thanking NHS staff?

...twitter? 🙄

The Queen will not have done that, just a member of staff.

I can imagine the royal family’s PR machine will soon be going into overdrive.....how to make the gullible masses think we’re all in this together and we’re so grateful for all the front line workers type of thing.

Perish the thought they’d part with any of their cash though. They actually disgust me.

The Queen will not have done that, just a member of staff

Ah yes, the old "whipping boy" gambit - except that ethos tends to come from the top and I don't imagine staff would do something like this if they thought they'd incur HM's displeasure

I confess I was suprised myself that some politicians tried to okay the grant and wonder about their motivations, but overall I'm even more surprised that they considered themselves entitled to apply in the first place

And why does it always start chucking it down just as I'm ready to go out ... ?

I have wondered what sort of kick back the RF get for issuing royal warrants? I remember the big who ha when the warrants from The Q, The QM and PC were Removed from Harrods. I’m pretty sure that the discounts they get from suppliers who have a warrant are big. Discounts no one else will get.

When I pointed out that the Countess of Wessex had a child born with a disability (on the other thread) you implied that it was ok for her because she had plenty of money - you also referred to her 'preachy videos'.

gosh, how sad if you are trailing my posts from other threads.

and Louise certainly doesn't have complex needs if she has a disability at all. and if it were the case, trust me, their life would be a million times easier than that of people like me on the breadline, looking after severly disabled children without any kind of support, nor money to buy support or respite on.

I think you have no experience in looki g after a severely disabled person 24/7. And you also lack in a few other departments.

When the government gave the go ahead for Buck House to be renovated, costing over £360 million, royalists jumped to defend it saying it was a necessity and the queen didn’t actully own it anyway. (so convenient so she gets out of paying for it herself) What a great cop out, she gets the monster of a building all to herself....but if we want to see it we pay. . It obviously isn’t cost effective. Any other building would just get pulled down.

She doesn’t care one jot that the taxpayers are left to foot the bill for all their many sumptuous homes. Its beyond sickening.

That is sickening!

Horrendous about Buck House. Noone who has actually gone out and earned money could take that money in good conscience. There are so many things the royal family could have done, but what they have done is the absolute stock-standard bare minimum. We got a photo of two of them on the phone?! Look at what Jo Wicks etc have done and you get a good idea about who cares for the general public and children stuck at home.

^When the government gave the go ahead for Buck House to be renovated, costing over £360 million, royalists jumped to defend it saying it was a necessity and the queen didn’t actully own it anyway.*

Who owns it? Earlier posters were saying they did, not sure now

but overall I'm even more surprised that they considered themselves entitled to apply in the first place

'they' being the 'Queen's deputy treasurer' who probably didn't even consult the royal family before his request.

I have wondered what sort of kick back the RF get for issuing royal warrants?

This?
Royal Warrant Holders Charity Fund

"The charitable arm of the Royal Warrant Holders Association, QEST was established in 1990 to celebrate the 150th anniversary of the Association and the 90th birthday of The Queen Mother. Since 1990 the Trust has awarded over £4 million to over 400 craftspeople aged between 17 and 58 for study, training and work experience."

"the Royal Warrant Holders Association also operates a Charity Fund–the Members’ Charity–established in 1902 and rejuvenated in 2013.This exists to support the charitable endeavours of employees of Royal Warrant-holding companies.The Charity Fund makes grants, in the range of £500 to £2,000, to local charities with which employees of Royal Warrant holding companies are personally involved, and where the amounts given will make a real difference."

"Twice a year, Royal Warrant holders who have given time to charitable work in their communities can apply for small donations to assist their chosen cause. All applications must be endorsed by a Grantee, but could support the charitable work of any employee at a Royal Warrant-holding company."

Buckingham Palace belongs to the crown estates. The queen gets to live there in the same way Boris gets to live at 10 Downing St.

I just said in the thread that was deleted that Wills has done fuck all during this (apart from a bit of wittering about ‘wishing’ he could renew his license )

What a lovely lock down he’s having. Holed up in his massive second home with extensive grounds, wife and kids, staff looking after them. Life of Riley.

So if she gets to live there is it easier to stop that continuing and make the properties open to public?

Easier than if they were hers for example.

No idea what process would be.

Back from my Boris exercise

Ahhh so it has exemption from paying tax but is still treated as privately owned

He pays income tax but not corporation tax despite the commercial interests involved. He doesn't miss a trick when it comes to spotting a business expense to offset the tax and there's a good chance Just Harry's living bill will somehow come under that umbrella. He and the queen have claimed farming subsidies and he's grown trees on Duchy land which he sold back to the Duchy.

This article (The Sun, sorry) is quite illuminating. The whole thing is like his personal racket:

www.thesun.co.uk/news/10786607/prince-charles-harry-meghan-duchy-of-cornwall-money-norman-baker/

dairyfairies
gosh, how sad if you are trailing my posts from other threads

I didn't trail your post - I trailed my post from a few days ago - surprise, surprise - you were on it.

you are clearly desperate now. just back off

I wasn't going to reply to this (crossed post/let sleeping dogs lie etc.) but you leave me no choice;

Huh!
You were not even involved in last night's discussion - I logged on this morning to find that you had decided to join in the bullying:

"I think you can leave this thread alone now, clavinova. you have clearly shown what a person you are."
"I am really tempted to give you a piece of my mind but this would probably violate MN guidelines."

Then you sent me a biscuit because I dared to reply to this - then a follow up post. Now you have come back again and you want me to 'back off' !!!

it's getting embarrassing

Yes, I agree - it's getting embarrassing for you.

@cathyorclaire

Shocking, I would love to see somebody try to defend that.

As for the Royal Warrants, a lot of the companies have been exposed as using tax havens, not paying tax or moving manufacturing out of the UK.

Louise certainly doesn't have complex needs if she has a disability at all.

She was featured on a BBC disability blog when she was a bridesmaid aged 7 or 8 - she had a disability then.

Does the Duchy pay corporation tax?

"The Duchy of Cornwall estate is not a corporation and therefore not subject to Corporation tax. However, The Prince does pays income tax on the Duchy’s surplus. If the Duchy also paid corporation tax, the Prince would effectively be taxed twice on the same income. Only companies pay corporation tax; many other large organisations which are not companies pay income tax."

Greenpoppins - Maybe the Queen could do a keep fit video every morning! Get real FGS.

The Duchy of Cornwall estate is not a corporation

Of course not. Just there for Charles to treat as his personal golden goose.