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Our human rights have been taken away

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Soph7777 · 29/03/2020 23:40

I know it's for a good cause.

I know it's to save lives.

But our basic human rights have been taken from under us, in the short space of a week.

I find this part most of all the scariest.

I'm really struggling mentally with government control to this extent.

How long can this last before people lose their minds and rebel?

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Tiari · 30/03/2020 06:40

And what part do you not understand Toomboom that some people have genuine concern that we won't get our rights back?

Splodgetastic · 30/03/2020 06:41

What about the human rights of people who die or have poor quality of life because of our illegal levels of pollution. Where were you all then?

We shouldn’t just forget civil liberties and human rights. Why not place an upside down rainbow in your window to raise awareness?

bunnie1234 · 30/03/2020 06:47

I agree. I can't find a job right now and I do agree that our human rights are being taken away. Let's all calm down and not start blaming each other. We get it.

But honestly, there has to be a balance somewhere between trust and watchfulness. Take it with a grain of salt. If this is as bad as they say it is then if its really that dangerous then maybe Trump is just being super protective of us. Our constitutional right of assembly however is being breached. And we don't know if he is being forced by higher powers? If this thing really is not worse than the flu then this could be the beginning of something really bad, like a global takeover or some crazy plan to take our rights away, like the frog being slowly boiled.

It's OK to question everything. It's not OK to blindly follow. It's ok to follow, just not blindly. I'm sure we'll know in time, and not get too comfortable. I wish the best to all, and what a crazy time to be pregnant.

ALovelyBitOfSquirrel · 30/03/2020 06:53

*I really feel like I'm living in a movie that I didn't ask to be cast in
*
I wonder if when you read that back to yourself if you cringe like most people do when they read it?

Everyone is struggling with this. Stop seeing yourself as someone special who is somehow more affected than others because you just such a free spirit who can't bear restrictions. Perhaps give your head a wobble and think about those who have died and all those that will die tonight, tomorrow and the day after.

Cowfacemonkey has nailed it there.

Greenandpleasanter · 30/03/2020 06:55

*I'm actually embarrassed to say I live in a country where people are going to "riot" because they can only go out once a day. Imagine actually living in poverty in a third world country. Imagine having no access to healthcare or education. But, no. We all have to listen to this overly dramatic tripe where people are complaining about their "human rights" being taken away, when it's literally a few weeks/months of being careful so we can save as many lives as possible.

I fucking despair*

Are you constantly manning the barricades to protect human rights across the globe OP? Or is it just a problem when you can't get your nails done or go to the cinema?

No one's stopping you voicing your opinion. But are you saying your right to say what's on your mind trumps everyone else's right to disagree with you?

People's individual rights always have to be balanced against the greater good. This is a short term measure to get the world, not just this country, through a very challenging time. We have been asked to stay at home for three weeks. That's it. This government is all about individual freedoms and they wouldn't have taken this action lightly. It's not even about a few old people dying, as I've seen rather disgustingly on some of these threads, it's about our entire health system breaking down under the strain. It's about young people dying. It's about health service workers dying for doing their jobs.

And those people who are comparing it to malaria, if we could stop malaria across the world by staying at home for three weeks, wouldn't you do it? Do all you libertarians fight for human rights across the world and give to charities to protect the health of others? Or does it just make you feel up in arms when it affects you?

We don't just have rights in a civil society, we have responsibilities.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 30/03/2020 06:55

Our human rights are not going to be taken away. The end.

People are ridiculously dramatic sometimes.

CatteStreet · 30/03/2020 06:56

'Not worse than the flu' or not (and flu can be pretty awful for some) is not completely one thing or the other. We had a massive vaccination campaign against polio even though 90% of people who caught it were asymptomatic (or something like that, don't recall entirely). The sheer numbers catching it (i.e. almost everyone, eventually) + the devestating consequences for a few who did were worth the massive campaign. Polio was endemic. Coronavirus isn't, and it's sweeping through a population without immunity. It is highly likely that a high proportion of people who catch it will be asymptomatic or notice very little in the way of symptoms. But for a minority it requires gruelling and resource-intensive treatment. This phase is simply about trying to manage the consequences of this spread of a new disease into the population. It is OK to question the measures, their duration, etc. It is OK to watch critically what's going on. But don't decry people who have come to their own conclusion that they are content to go along with this for now.

CatteStreet · 30/03/2020 06:56

Oh ffs, I can spell. *devastating.

Greenandpleasanter · 30/03/2020 06:57

Oh and to be saying it's about your mental health, when you title your thread our human rights have been taken away is just a tad disingenuous.

greytminds · 30/03/2020 06:58

It is ridiculous that so many people on this thread think that someone who is complying with the current situation but questioning the removal of rights and voicing anxiety at this, is whinging and deserves being spoken to like utter crap. Also, that questioning things means that a person is not concerned about those who are dying, or won’t comply. That’s not even remotely what is bring said.

There’s also this mentality of trying to redirect any concern by pointing out how things could be worse. Along with the spiteful tone, it’s a very ‘Daily Mail’ style of attack.

pictish · 30/03/2020 06:59

I hear and understand you OP. This IS weird...and exactly like being cast in a film we didn’t audition for. Like you, I know it’s the right and only thing to do...but I’m also finding it hard and will admit it at the risk of being shouted down as well.

I also agree with you that the people on here putting words in your mouth and tearing you to shreds over them are the same people that plastered #bekind all over their social media in February.

pictish · 30/03/2020 07:01

grey - I couldn’t agree more.

NuclearWinter · 30/03/2020 07:01

Wow, are you even capable of sympathy? 'People die and that's sad but what about meeeeeeeeeee?!'

The irony is dripping off this...

Tiari · 30/03/2020 07:02

Nice bit of empathy there ALovelyBitOfSquirrel and total misunderstanding of OP's concerns.

Deathraystare · 30/03/2020 07:02

Normally I am one of the first to complain about living in a police /nanny state but this is common sense. We have not had anything like this before in our lifetime. During the war people still went out to war. Bombs may have rained down but disease wasn't spread (well, not like now). Everyone should think about everyone else who is in the same position.

We will get through it and pull through and then (hopefully) we will appreciate family and friends that much more (and be nicer to everyone too).

Don't blame the government. I loathe the Tories but I think Boris is doing a good job (some say he is not strict enough there is no rule book here) . It could be worse, in countries with less human rights, we would be shot in the streets!

CatteStreet · 30/03/2020 07:03

greytminds and pictish, agreed - even though I suppose I am arguing on the 'other' side of this here (this is another thing about MN atm - moderate voices are drowning in all the polarisation, attacks and polemic)

TinglyFeets · 30/03/2020 07:04

Also - ignore the cunts. This virus has brought out the worst in a lot of people, and mumsnet in particular is one of the nastiest sites on the internet these days.

This is absolutely the truth. Every thread filled with people whose sole aim is to make the OP feel like shit.

bunnie1234 · 30/03/2020 07:06

Yes @Soph7777 , we can be in control more than we think. It is true that many many things are beyond our control. But we are powerful. Now is a pretty fitting time to seek divine help and explore the law of attraction. The collective conscious is obviously freaking out right now. We have to stay sharp and not let them take away our rights. We have to defend our selves and our families. Check out twin flame healers on youtube, they have a recent vid that is very helpful..

Splodgetastic · 30/03/2020 07:06

Even terrorist suspects on immigration bail are allowed out to exercise for their mental health, by the way.

Tiari · 30/03/2020 07:08

Agreed TinglyFeets
No wonder OP has left the thread!

Marieo · 30/03/2020 07:08

I do understand your concerns, but we are just being asked to stay indoors. The police etc is as people can't be trusted. Some people have to live like this all of the time (and worse), maybe we will have some empathy now.

bunnie1234 · 30/03/2020 07:10

@Soph7777 don't listen to the brainwashed idiots. This is likely not even worse than the flu and could be the beginning of the NWO and these idiots are just blindly following along. KUDOS to people like U who still think for themselves. And don't watch the news for too long or you will go crazy.

Mittens030869 · 30/03/2020 07:11

The comparison with flu is becoming very tiresome, and usually it's from people who have know idea how bad flu can be, and think it's just a bad cold.

Even so, there are 2 very key differences between COVID-19 and flu.

Firstly there's a vaccine against flu whereas there isn't any on COVID-19 so, until there is one, a proper comparison can't be made.

Secondly, young, fit people don't die of flu (although it' very unpleasant and those saying 'just flu' have probably never had it), whereas that can happen with COVID-19.

VanillaGodzilla · 30/03/2020 07:11

But, no. We all have to listen to this overly dramatic tripe where people are complaining about their "human rights" being taken away,

Could be worse I suppose. We could have to listen to people complaining about people complaining about their human rights being taken away.

Oh, hang on....

Seems some people only think other people's complaints should be stifled.

bunnie1234 · 30/03/2020 07:11

@NuclearWinter you need to go evaluate your self and quit putting other people down for thinking for themselves for not being just a blind sheep!

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