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To feel sorry for Boris Johnson

325 replies

LonerGirl · 28/03/2020 21:13

I know people didn’t have a high opinion of him, tbf neither did I before this, but he’s doing his best. He’s doing what experts are advising him to do. He’s ordered temporary hospitals to be built & thousands of ventilators, asked for help through NHS volunteering.

I think he’s coping okay despite his wife being pregnant too, now he’s unwell himself.

What are your opinions?

I don’t want any fights or arguments I’m
Just curious to what others are thinking

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AuldAlliance · 28/03/2020 22:48

I'm thinking it can't be easy having CV and running the country.

If you have a country to run, why go around shaking the hands of CV patients, thereby vastly increasing your chances of getting CV?
And then boast about it, modelling criminally irresponsible behaviour to millions of people?

raskolnikova · 28/03/2020 22:49

She might.....we'll never know

The problem is, we do know if the current government would do that, because they did. So I think I'll take a chance on Susan.

OhMargo · 28/03/2020 22:51

emilybrontescorsett

Nothing to add to that, you are so right there. Especially WRT the CV stuff. I did wonder if it had all become too much for him. We will never know because is the ultimate liar anyway.

CherryPavlova · 28/03/2020 22:51

The excel centre is being equipped quickly so there is clearly a lot of prep behind the scenes.. Also known as the Nightingale Hospital. It was due for completion on Friday but behind schedule.
As yet, staffing plans have not been shared with key agencies. Where are ITU experienced nurses and doctors sufficient to cope with 2,000 beds coming from - St John Ambulance volunteers? Given there will be similar temporary hospitals across the nation, where are the staff for those coming from?

OhMargo · 28/03/2020 22:54

CherryPavlova

Ask Johnson. Not us.

OOPS, forgot he is out of commission now, very handily too since the shit is hitting the ubiquitous fan right now. ha.

Iwannabeadored20 · 28/03/2020 23:06

@frazzledasarock

I don't think there is much truth in your statement.
Dyson won't get the medical licence for ventilators. Lots of companies will supply them.

Wilmalovescake · 28/03/2020 23:07

“As yet, staffing plans have not been shared with key agencies.”

Source for this please? I’ve read several articles about the partnership between NHS Management and the Army Medical Big Cheeses. It’s all happening at breakneck speed. Any quicker and they’d burst into flames.

Iwannabeadored20 · 28/03/2020 23:08

@CherryPavlova

They are recruiting teachers to work as healthcare assistants in the Nightingale. 600. We are DBS cleared. I was asked this week if I would do it.

frazzledasarock · 28/03/2020 23:11

@Iwannabeadored20 apparently the government has signed a contract with Dyson for 10,000 ventilators.

Not my statement, its on the BBC news website. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Iwannabeadored20 · 28/03/2020 23:13

@frazzledasarock

Yes, I 've just seen the link. I take it back, frazzled.

PicturesOfCats · 28/03/2020 23:13

The deal with Dyson is subject to them passing the health and safety requirements.
I don’t really see the problem with that tbh. If they can prove they can produce them to the relevant standards, then let them produce them. We should be buying from everyone we can, surely?

EngTech · 28/03/2020 23:15

I have more confidence in Boris than JC and his bunch.

He is dammed if he does, dammed if he doesn’t but he got an 80 seat majority pre Covid 19

Come the next GE people will remember how he handled this crisis and vote accordingly.

Like it or not, it takes time to ramp up things

If they had kept large stacks of XX widgets, he would be moaned at for having them and the associated costs.

BoingBoingyBoing · 28/03/2020 23:19

He's a total dick, but I'd take him over Trump any day of the week. It must be fucking terrifying to live in the US right now.

Sarahandco · 28/03/2020 23:51

He is doing a good job but there will need to be a lot of changes after this.

WalledGarden · 29/03/2020 00:00

If you think BJ is doing a good job, your bar is appallingly low.

Peregrina · 29/03/2020 00:12

Corbyn will be history this time next week. If Starmer gets the Labour leadership, it will be interesting to see what happens to the JC would have done worse narrative.

What puzzles me about all this "Johnson is doing a good job" malarky, is that he isn't doing much and it seems to be Sunak who is making the running.

DippyAvocado · 29/03/2020 00:30

I feel sorry for him that he's got the virus.

However, I don't feel sorry for the fact he's got to do stuff he didn't think he was signing up for and which he is clearly not comfortable doing. He thought he was going to play the charming clown and please the crowds by "getting Brexit done". He did not expect to have to govern over a crisis. I'm not saying he should have expected it, none of us did, but a leader has to be able to step up in all circumstances.

As PP said, he lacks the gravitas. His address to the nation from his desk the other night just didn't sound like a leader giving an incredibly important speech that people had to listen to. I know he wants to be Churchillian, but he doesn't seem to be able to strike the right tone. You can't build your entire public persona around playing the charming buffoon and then expect people to take you seriously in a crisis.

I totally agree as well with posters who point out the hypocrisy of anyone who has been part of government in the past ten years talking about protecting the NHS. Although I hope that one of the positives to come out of this is that they don't dare to do anything to try to dismantle it after.

safariboot · 29/03/2020 00:46

Sorry? This is quite likely to be a huge boost to his popularity! Leading the country through a massive crisis, as long as he doesn't completely fuck it up he'll come out of it very strong politically.

Helpmechangemymindsetplease · 29/03/2020 07:35

Come the next GE people will remember how he handled this crisis and vote accordingly.

Yes - he handled it by ignoring what was obviously going to happen for weeks and weeks, and by taking population protecting measures far too late. Not to mention frontline medical staff protecting measures.

Beerincomechampagnetastes · 29/03/2020 09:01

Anyone worried about ventilators,

www.gov.uk/government/news/response-to-the-financial-times-article-on-ventilators

Please feel some reassurance that steps have been taken weeks ago and that we will have double our normal number almost immediately and thousands more in the next couple of weeks, due to government planning and great British industry.

Flowers
Utterlybutterly8 · 29/03/2020 09:04

I feel sorry for him because he’s come down with this awful virus, and overall I think he’s done a pretty good job under extremely difficult circumstances.

Curious78 · 29/03/2020 09:19

Well I like him. Stick that up yer pipes and smoke it Grin Get well soon BJ !

Letsdoanamechangeagain · 29/03/2020 09:28

I dont feel sorry for him in the slightest.

He played the long game to get the PM job, he got what he wanted and now he's out of his depth.

He is a member of a party that has systematically underfunded and dismantled the NHS over the past ten years.

Theres a plethora of reasons I dont feel sorry for him at the moment.

He's reaped what he's sown.

severalboxes · 29/03/2020 09:31

I think he's an arrogant, callous piece of shit who is temperamentally ill-suited to be PM and has no idea what life is like for most people.

He has dithered and bumbled his way so far, increasing the death toll.

He's going to use this crisis to do all kinds of nefarious things like hiding the Russia report, the Arcuri report, the inquiry into Priti Patel.

He's still got Cummings advising him after he hired an actual eugenicist and suggested just letting old/immunocompromised folk die to save the economy.

He's pushing ahead with hard brexit despite knowing it'll be an extra hammer blow to people's livelihoods.

I'm disgusted that anyone voted for him tbh.

doodlebug33 · 29/03/2020 09:32

I think he's doing a great job under the most unenviable of circumstances. I admire the fact that he has the good grace to listen to his advisors and change his advice/orders as necessary. It could be worse - imagine having Donald in charge "I don't want Covid 19 here so I'm going to pretend we don't have it'
Go Boris - you're doing a great job and I hope you recover soon!!!!